"Near Space" Aircrafts to Fly Soon!

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Science - Reuters U.S. Air Force Excited About Near-Space Prospects

Tue Jan 18, 7:25 PM ET


By Andrea Shalal-Esa

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - [size=-1]The U.S. Air Force could start operating aircraft in "near space," the no man's land above 65,000 feet but below an outer space orbit, within a year, a top U.S. Air Force space official said on Tuesday. [/size][size=-1]
The Air Force is actively exploring ways to use helium-filled free-floating balloons and remotely controlled glider-like aircraft to protect U.S. convoys, track friendly forces, assess battle damage and boost communications between groups of troops in military hot spots like Iraq.

Near-space craft could give the military new ways to achieve those missions and save money over current aerial vehicles and satellites.
Lt. Gen. Daniel Leaf, vice commander of U.S. Air Force Space Command, cited a planned demonstration this month of a balloon-type aircraft that would ascend to 60,000 to 70,000 feet above Phoenix, Arizona, where it would test relaying communications between ground troops, a hypothetical air support center and fighter jets patrolling the air.

That balloon, Combat SkySat Phase I, was built by Space Data Corp., and carries a signal repeater for the U.S. Army's PRC 148 hand-held radio, according to published reports.
Another demonstration of something known as the "Near Space Maneuvering Vehicle," was planned later this month or next in Oregon, an Air Force spokesman said.



The Air Force could start using near-space aircraft to relay communications within the next year, but it could take up to a decade to develop other aircraft that would take on more sophisticated missions such as surveillance, Leaf said.
Leaf said the Air Force was evaluating about 10 different concepts for aircraft that could be used for surveillance, intelligence and reconnaissance and perhaps to augment a fleet of Global Positioning Satellites orbiting the earth.
He also said the Air Force had no plans to put weapons aboard these aircraft.



"There is a lot of excitement in the military, and the Air Force in particular, about near space and the potential it offers," Leaf told Reuters in a telephone interview from his office at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado.



'NOT A FAD'
"This is not a passing fad or fancy," he said, although he acknowledged that industry faced significant challenges in developing materials that could withstand extreme ultraviolet radiation in the outer reaches of Earth's atmosphere.
More work was also needed on ways to allow aerostats and other aircraft to hover in one place without the tethers that are used at lower altitudes, where such aircraft are already used for border patrol missions and other surveillance.
Near-space aircraft, likely to cost far less than current unmanned aerial vehicles or satellites launched into space, could also help cover gaps in satellite coverage that could emerge as U.S. national security satellites age, Leaf said.

Moreover, near-space aircraft such as balloons and gliders could be programmed to land in friendly territory, where they could be recovered and reused, unlike satellites.
But he stressed that near-space aircraft would complement, rather than replace outer space aircraft and jets that fly closer to the ground.

Leaf said the Air Force was due to respond to five specific areas identified for further study by the end of this week, with an eye to securing some initial funding for near space in the fiscal 2006 budget, which is now being finalized.

But Leaf acknowledged there was tough competition for defense dollars in the current budget climate. "It's got to earn its way to the table," he said. [/size]


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I mean what's the news in this. From what I hear there are even commercial near space flights offered from Russia in a Mig 25. So is this a breakthrough in technology or just mumbo jumbo.
 
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TRK

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It is a good news though. And I appreciate that. But that brings me to a question that arose in my mind. :confused:

It is mentioned that above 65000 feets means "Near Space" zone.

The F -117 can reach upto the height of 65000 feets. But a Mig 25 can also reach upto the height of 70000 feet. If you have doubt than refer the link below

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/index.html

Does that mean that Mig 25 can is a "Near Space" Aircraft ?:confused: AND
Can a Mig 25 chase a F-117?:D

PLEASE HELP to clear my doubts
 

hovercraft

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A Soviet MiG-25 fighter prototype holds the world altitude record for a jet aircraft, flying 37,650 m (123,524 ft) above sea level on August 31, 1977.
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highsea

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The altitude record by the Mig 25 and formerly the Streak Eagle are not exactly examples of "flight" at that altitude. The AC are specially built for the attempts, with stripped paintjobs and minimum electronics, and carrying a minimum fuel load. Basically they are ballistic flight paths, with the AC going nearly straight up until the engines flame out at around 100,000 feet or so. Then they "coast" the rest of the way up to the record. Still an impressive feat, but not exactly an example of operation at that kind of altitude.

The 65,000 ft. mentioned in the OP is just kind of a general reference point. There are lots of aircraft that can operate higher than that for extended periods. As far as balloons, the US has operated balloons around 100,000 feet and higher for many years. Darpa has been looking at using balloons for long range heavy transport.

Speaking of records, in the early days of spaceflight in the US, parachute jumps were done from balloons to test survivability in emergencies. You have to be pretty gutsy to jump out of a capsule at 100,000 feet in a spacesuit, Joe Kittinger did it in 1960 from over 102,000 feet! That's a record that still stands today, 45 years later.
 

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In the late 1950s, both the United States and the Soviet Union started building bombers and fighters capable of speeds of 3,200 km/h (2,000 mph) or more, but most of these projects were scrapped because the political leaders in both countries thought that new surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) would be able to shoot them down. The only survivors of this era were the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird spy plane and the Mikoyan MiG-25 fighter, which were both flown in the 1960s and remain the fastest military airplanes ever built. The SR-71 was fired on more than 1,000 times by SAMs and was never hit.

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