Russian MIG-29 Shoots Georgian UAV
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These "boosted" troops are there for about 3-4 years, since the 2nd Chechnya war ends. From time to time russians do demonstrative military exercises in response to Georgian demonstrative military maneuvers or usual Georgian president promises to annihilate these separatists... but thats it. Nothing new for the last 5 years.
Btw, Mig-29 in russian service cant carry missiles under wing tips. Seems this contradicts to the video.
Grand Danois
Entertainer
Btw, on supersonic target drones, USN.
MQM-8G Vandal (until 2005)
GQM-163 Coyote (2008?)
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-163.html
MQM-8G Vandal (until 2005)
GQM-163 Coyote (2008?)
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-163.html
superhornet
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well, it should be Mig-29... launch R-73, good shoot anyway. probably , UAV has no time to response cause it's very closed. obviously, Russia knows that its hostility must be cameraed. so we can figure out that russia is not afraid of deplomatic dispute. i think Russia is trying to deliver certain message to George. otherwise, Mig-29 can use medium- range radar guided missile like R-27 to destroy the UAV.
That is a Mig29. I notice about the missile too, but i think its a confusion, coz the missile is very fast off of the rails and the video quality is poor... giving a look as if it came from the wingtip. The missile should be a R73, which is always positioned at the outermost wing pylon of the Mig29.
Yet still, it would be an interesting acrobatics to watch
but after I posted my remark I realized that even if the aircraft tips the UAV over, the on-board computer is going to make UAV straight back up on its path, stupid me,
Interestingly enough I recall seeing that when the claim that the UAV was shot down by abkhazian AD systems was first made, georgia denied that the UAV existed. Only when wreckage was publically demonstrated, they changed their story and displayed the video. What is also interesting is that after the video surfaced, the abkhazians changed their claim, and now said it was a L-39 jet in service with the Abkhazian air force that shot it down. It seems like both sides are in the wrong.
L-39 photo. There's no 2 tailed variant.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...itano--Image-of-L39-at-Santa-Rosa-airshow.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...itano--Image-of-L39-at-Santa-Rosa-airshow.jpg
1. The only single fact everyone agree - spy plane was shot down.
2. This particular video - proves nothing. Such very, very bad quality was most likely intentionally chosen to cover falsification.
3. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__azM4EyhM&NR=1"]YouTube - iran plane[/ame] as example. Note, in this fake Mig-29 is about 5 times larger than on Georgian video. On Georgian video the plane size is 10 blurred pixels... lol. Even my ancient 486dx will easefully edit that video so noone can prove falsification.
4. Georgia did not presented or demonstrated this video as fact on UN council
meeting. They however spammed it prior to all UN members - BUT didnt presented it as fact on the meeting.
5. No official organization (UN, NATO, any country) supported Georgian claims of Mig-29 shooting UAV. They however expressed usual discontent with "escalating tensions in Abkhazia".
6. Russian Foreign Ministry officially declared this as fake. So basically, this is Georgian vs Russian words. We need more reliable facts.
"AD system" can mean anything - from Igla manpad to F-22 interceptor. Everything what can affect air targets - is included in Air Defense System.
New incident of a drone shot down in Abkhazia and as the story says
"According to Itar-Tass, it was downed at 1252 GMT on Sunday."
here is the story in BBC today
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7382969.stm
"According to Itar-Tass, it was downed at 1252 GMT on Sunday."
here is the story in BBC today
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7382969.stm
PVO in russian means both aircrafts and ground-based defense. For example, Mig-31 were always part of USSR PVO system. Mig-29 - always part of airforce.
If true, this will be quite bad for Georgian publicity.
P.S. Btw, now Abkhazian defense ministry tells there were 2 UAV's shot down this Sunday.
Georgia do these threating postures every 3 months, so i dont expect anything serious out of it.
Btw, 2 UAV's confirmed by Abkhazia. Georgia deny any UAV was shot down.
I guess this will end any discussion whenever Abkhazia have assets to shot down UAV's.