Iran to buy SU-30MK

Firehorse

Banned Member
The PRC can just sell them J-10s with downgraded systems, but modified for Iran's needs. If every AF worried about new fighters being shotdown & captured, there would be no use to develop/upgrade them! JF-17 may or may not be as good. If Pakistan going to get both, by some accounts, why not Iran? Also, as PLAAF gets more J-10s, they could transfer surplus J-7s to Iranians- quantity can make up for lower quality.
For those interested in PLAN SSBNs, I recently edited my last post on the related tread.
 

SABRE

Super Moderator
Verified Defense Pro
The PRC can just sell them J-10s with downgraded systems, but modified for Iran's needs. If every AF worried about new fighters being shotdown & captured, there would be no use to develop/upgrade them! JF-17 may or may not be as good. If Pakistan going to get both, by some accounts, why not Iran? Also, as PLAAF gets more J-10s, they could transfer surplus J-7s to Iranians- quantity can make up for lower quality.
For those interested in PLAN SSBNs, I recently edited my last post on the related tread.
You cant really compare the needs of Pakistan Air Force with Iranian Air Force (anymore .. from 1950s to 1970s perhaps you could). For Pakistan its suitable to go for J-10 & JF-17 since one of the aircraft is being produced by Pakistan & also Pakistan has access to international avionics & weapon system. That makes PAF J-10s & JF-17s completely of different league than what, 'perhaps', would be offered for export by either China or Pakistan.

Plus the Iranians actually have a habit of bashing Chinese aircrafts, especially the J-7 & consider anything Chinese as inferior. If you more attention to IRIAF you would come to notice that they are still hung-on the Western Air Crafts, while finding it difficult to adapt to Russian & Chinese fighters.

E.g: They still haven't really gotten adapted to J-7 & seem to face some problems with the MiG-29s (Iraqi). Perhaps thats why they never went for more of either. --- & at some level I still doubt their interest in Su-30.

The only option available/suitable & also the one they seem to be following is to start their own R&D & production.


This is my personal opinion of course.
 

Firehorse

Banned Member
Reports: Iran looking to Russia, China to help modernize air force
http://www.pr-inside.com/print297716.htm
2007-11-13 12:58:06 -
BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - Iran, seeking to bolster its air defenses amid rising tensions over its nuclear program, is likely to turn to Russia and China for the warplanes needed to replace its obsolete U.S. jets, analysts say.
Both Moscow and Beijing refuse to comment on reports in the Israeli and Russian media, along with Western aviation publications, that Iran aims to order Russian Sukhoi Su-30 and Chinese Chengdu J-10 combat aircraft.
But analysts note that Tehran is already committed to a sweeping modernizing program for the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) and that Tehran cannot obtain top-of-the-line jets from any other source due to a Western arms embargo. They also say that all three nations are very secretive when it comes to defense sales.
«It is clear that Iran has been trying for some time now to buy the last generation of jet fighters,» said Claude Moniquet, president of the European Strategic Intelligence and Security Center, a Brussels-based think-tank. «Most of their equipment is from the 1970s, so they cannot confront a modern air force.
The Su-30 _ a highly capable multi-role fighter-bomber _ has been widely exported. Hundreds have been ordered by India, Malaysia, Algeria, China, Venezuela, Indonesia and Vietnam.
«Iran has got to get an air defense capability somewhere, and China and Russia are the best sources to get it from,» said Steven Trimble, Washington correspondent for the trade magazine Flight International. The magazine reported that Iran was negotiating to buy 250 Su30s and about 40 J-10s.
Paradoxically, if Tehran succeeds in upgrading its air force, it may end up with technology from archenemy Israel. The J-10 is strikingly similar to Israel's defunct Lavi fighter project. There has long been speculation that the Lavi's technology somehow found its way to China.
«If reports (that Israel provided the technology to China) turned out to be true, it wouldn't be particularly surprising or unexpected,» said Prof. Gerald Steinberg, chairman of political sciences at Bar Ilan University, in Tel Aviv. «For Israel the international arms market is quite limited, and its only real customers are China, India and Turkey.
Thirty-six J-10s already have been sold to Iran's neighbor Pakistan, another Islamic nation seeking to modernize its air force.
Mark Ayton, editor of Air Forces Monthly, said there have been a flurry of reports in recent months suggesting that IRIAF is close to signing a huge order with Rosoboronexport, Russia's state arms trader.
«This would be the largest single order ever placed for the (Su-30),» Ayton said.
Russia has previously sold other advanced weaponry to Iran, including 24 MiG-29 interceptors, a dozen Su-24 attack jets, and several dozen short-range Tor-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems.
Iran's Foreign Ministry would neither confirm nor deny on reports that Iran was seeking to purchase jets from Russia and China. «Cooperation between Iran, Russia and China is within the framework of international regulations,» Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said.
In Moscow, a spokesperson for Rosoboronexport said she could make no immediate comment on reports that Moscow and Tehran were negotiating a sale of the Sukhoi jets. ..
The new J-10 may not be in the same league as older Russian & Chinese fighters, as far as being able to be integrated into the IRIAF. Let's not forget that American & Israeli technology was used in developing the Lavi, which in turn has influenced the J-10 development.
 
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