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aaaditya

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hey guys here is a news article about the indian bomb disposal robot.


ROBOTSDRDO develops remote-controlled explosive disposal robotNEW DELHI, MAR 29(PTI)
Defence Research and Development Organisation(DRDO) has developed an indigenous remotely-operated counter-terrorist Robot vehicle, equipped with sensors, which detects and defuses buired mines and improvised explosive devices.
Fielding a six-axis maniuplator arms with a gripper for handling explosives, the Robot can operate over a range of 500 metres and can prove ideal for locating buried mines and improvised explosive devices used by terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir and North East, DRDO officials said.
Powered by special battries which run for three hours without recharging, the Robots are also armed with multiple cameras and sensors, they said.
While, the Robot can pick up mines and IEDs from almost half a kilomtre away even when on the move, it can defuse explosives of upto 20kg .
"The robot is driven with the help of Master control station having operators with switches, joysticks and optional touch-screen interface for remote control and guidance", the scientists said adding these systems would be mounted on specially-designed Swaraj Mazda carrier Vehicles.

DRDO officials said the Robots, when equipped with Radiation measurement and automatic control units and portable gas chromantograph, could be used to carry out fight nuclear as well as biological containmination. The bomb disposal Robots have been developed by DRDO's Pune Based Research and Development establishment and already two engineered prototypes of the robots are under trials, officials said.
They said the Robots, on being inducted, would prove quite handy to forces battling naxals and would be mass produced for paramilitary forces and as well men of the Rashtriya Rifles.
At present, the armed forces as well as VVIP cavalcades are fielding imported remote sensors for mine and IED detection and for de-fusing them. "The vehicles can be deployed in urban areas to detect explsoives in buildings and built up areas and also to defuse them", officials said. The new system developed for handling IEDs uses portable x-ray device for detection and explosive-based water jet disrupter to defuse them.


here is the link for this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?gid=73&id=373685

check out this defence webpage it contains information of about the robot and the command control vehicle:

http://www.drdo.com/pub/nl/feb06/nd.htm

by the way can such a system be equipped with weapons(atleast a 40mm agl and a shoulder fired sam).does any country have such a weaponised robot project?
 

aaaditya

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hey guys here is an article on indian army's proposed replacement for the chetaks and cheetahs.


ARMY-CHOPPERS (UPGRADING)Army proposes to induct squadrons of new light helicoptersLEH, MAR 29 (PTI)
To give it more flexibility in operating in extreme high altitude conditions like Siachen and eastern Ladakh, the army is proposing to induct a number of squadrons of new light helicopters.
The Army for the first time is also proposing to give more teeth to the ground forces, ranged against Pakistani and Chinese forces, by inducting light helicopter gunships capable of operating at high altitudes.
For placing these force multipliers on the Himalayan heights, the army is looking both inwards as well as outwards trying to pick up upgraded Chetaks rechristened Cheetals, and Lancer light attack helicopters, both indigenous, and to make a choice between US bell and Eurocopters.
The US Textron Bell 407 Shen and Eurocopter have been shortlisted for the contract and the two helicopters have completed high-altitude trials. Army is also proposing to procure advanced version of the Dhruv light helicopters to complement those bouht from abroad.
"Trials are over for the two helicopters all over the conry," Colonel Ashwini Kumar, Commanding the 66 Army Aviation squadron (Kargil), told reporters.
Kumar said this squadron wouldbe inducting the Dhruv helicopters hopefully by the year end. "What we need are utility helicopters with diffeent avionics and different rotor system and require a helicopter with a multifaceted platform," he said. The sturdy Chetak and Cheeth, which are over 40-years-old, would be gradually phased out with the arrival of the new light helicopters.


here is the link for this article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=373731

initially agusta also participated in this competition offering their a109 power and kamov offereing their ka226,however they are both out of the competition ,kamov design was rejected because of its box like design which would make its operation in the siachens problematic.

however i dont know why the a109 power was rejected ,it seems to be a much superior helicopter to the bell and the eurocopter ones,the order is expected to be for 200 helicopters ,however i believe that the final number may go as high as 600.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys the first large order for the pinaka multi barreled rocket launchers has been placed(80 launchers),the most important point to be noted is that this contract ahs been given to two private indian companies the tata powers limited and the larsen and toubro limited,thus signalling the involvement of the private companies in indian defence industries.

here check out thsi link:

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=285650&ssid=53&sid=BUS
 

norinco89

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You mean the linebacker system?


It is similar but the lineback air defence is kinda secondary.

The tunguska is solely air defense while the bradly linebacker can also attack ground targets.

You are also asking the wrong questions.

You should be asking is the missiles those two systems use better or not.

They are pretty similar i dont have exact stats right now

hit u back later
 

aaaditya

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norinco89 said:
You mean the linebacker system?


It is similar but the lineback air defence is kinda secondary.

The tunguska is solely air defense while the bradly linebacker can also attack ground targets.

You are also asking the wrong questions.

You should be asking is the missiles those two systems use better or not.

They are pretty similar i dont have exact stats right now

hit u back later
hey man here are some links which iam sure would be quite usefull.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/tunguska/

and here is a link on the russian pantsyr a more advanced version of the tungushka system.

here check out the link:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/pantsyr/
 

nuke_em

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what was all that about the cbi case with denel being charged with something? the army couldnt invite them to 150 mm guns contratc trails
 

aaaditya

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nuke_em said:
what was all that about the cbi case with denel being charged with something? the army couldnt invite them to 150 mm guns contratc trails
denel was banned from the 155mm howitzer contract when it was found out that they had paid bribes to secure another contracts for the supply of anti material rifles,these rifles have since been developed indigenously,currently the swedish and the israeli companies are remaining in the 155mm competition.
 

nuke_em

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aaaditya said:
denel was banned from the 155mm howitzer contract when it was found out that they had paid bribes to secure another contracts for the supply of anti material rifles,these rifles have since been developed indigenously,currently the swedish and the israeli companies are remaining in the 155mm competition.
It is most likely that the swedish firm will get the contact the bofors devastated the pakkies in kargil
 

aaaditya

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It is most likely that the swedish firm will get the contact the bofors devastated the pakkies in kargil
i agree with you ,besides soaltam had already won a deal to upgrade the indian army 's russian made 130mm field howitzers,to the 155mm standard,these guns are known as the m50 and are of the 39 caliber ,around 300 of these are currently in service.
 

nuke_em

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indian soldiers do they where kevlar or metal plates? umm did you here about tar-21 the israeli assault riffle india bought a bunch of emm back in 2002 for the bsf i think. comment on this please
 

aaaditya

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indian soldiers do they where kevlar or metal plates? umm did you here about tar-21 the israeli assault riffle india bought a bunch of emm back in 2002 for the bsf i think. comment on this please
yes indian army does use kevlar bullet proof vests.

check out this link for the information on the tavor (tar) series of assault rifles.

http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as30-e.htm
 

nuke_em

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yes i have seen that website before when do you think india's tar-21s will be coming in, and do you know what part of the army is using it and which variant did india purchase
 

dabrownguy

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The Tavors for special forces I believe. The para troopers all ready use many different rifles including the M-4. The Insas is still in production with OFB now selling its Sub Machine guns and AK-47 knockoff to boarder security forces. And the last time I checked the Arjun and T-90 are in different weight and gun classes.
 

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Indian Army's mainstay T-72 steals show at exhibition

http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/web1/06apr22/national.htm
Indian Army's mainstay T-72 steals show at exhibition
BHOPAL, Apr 21: Remarkable advances in indigenous tank technology have made the Indian Army the proud possessor of the Main Battle Tank (MBT) Arjun but the T-72 continues to be the Army's mainstay and was given its due importance at a three-day exhibition that got underway here today.
Other hardware on display included a mechanised infantry vehicle, air defence guns, bridging equipment, mines, anti-tank missiles, night vision-equipped supporting weapons and a mobile surgical station that were viewed with considerable interest at the "Know Your Army'exhibition.
"The T-72 has been the mainstay for years now and plays a key role in the majority of our armoured and mechanised formations. It is the main punching power and success would heavily depend on its being able to achieve necessary missions in mechanised operations," Brig Prabir Goswami, Vishisht Seva Medal, who commanded 16 Independent Armoured Brigade during Operation Vijay -- the Kargil conflict -- told UNI.
He explained the original Soviet tank is being indigenously produced at Avadi in Tamil Nadu as the Ajay. "The T-90, an upgraded version recently acquired from Russia with a number of add-on superior abilities such as the capability of launching missiles, is expected to gradually take on this role," he added.
Regarding the MBT Arjun, the brigadier pointed out that it's a highly-sophisticated tank with several state-of-the-art components and a "very high first round hit capability," a must to survive in an increasingly hostile battlefield having multiple anti-tank threats compounded by developed terrain restrictions on the country's western border.
When pointed out that the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO)-manufactured MBT Arjun's 120 mm-calibre rifled gun was of the same diameter as the M256 smoothbore gun on the US Army's M1A2 Abrams, the expert said, "The gun is very important but it is a part of a weapon system -- the whole tank -- and the difference is that the Americans are old hands at this game.
"The American advantage of private firms manufacturing prototypes for trials, as part of a competitive environment entailing selection of the best, bespeaks of the amount of finances these firms are willing to spend to develop such sophisticated weaponry. Still, the MBT has several good points and should help the DRDO develop more efficient models in the future."
Taking a leaf out of the nation's post-independence military history, Brig Goswami proudly mentioned that the Vijayanta served India well in Operation Cactus Lily -- the 1971 Indo-Pak war."I served with the Vijayanta tank for 17 years but by the time I got to command my regiment, it had converted to T-72 tanks. The armoured brigade, which I commanded for three years, also had T-72 regiments," he said.
The T-72 has a primary armament comprising a 125 mm smoothbore gun utilising an electro-hydraulic autoloader. The secondary armament is a 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun. Power is supplied by a 582 KW (780 hp) diesel engine and the crew comprises a commander, driver and gunner. The weapon system is equipped with a laser range finder and thermal jackets on the main gun.
By comparison, the MBT Arjun has a 120-mm gun with thermal jacket, 12.7-mm anti-aircraft gun, 7.62-mm coaxial anti-personnel machine gun, laser range finder and night vision. The much larger stats are combat weight 58.5 tonnes, length (gun forward) 10.638 m, width 3.864 m and height 3.03 m. It packs in a 1,400 hp engine that gives a maximum speed of 70 Kmph with the crosscountry speed being 40 kmph. The crew comprises a commander, gunner, loader and driver.
The superior armour-defeating capability of the indigenously developed Fin Stabilised Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition give MBT Arjun an edge. (UNI)


Atleast we know the Arjun can take hits.
 
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aaaditya

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3000 tavors were acquired for the special forces,more than 300000 insas rifles are currently in service(nearly 600000),they have also been sold to nepal,a new variant of insas has been developed known as the excalibur,iam sure that the insas will be transferred to the para millitary forces,rashtriya rifles,police forces once the indian army acquires new assault rifles.

as far as the integrated soldier system is concerned ,germany ,britain,usa ,israel and south africa(the african warrior) are offereing their solutions in a deal estimated in excess of 1 billion dollars(request proposals have already been sent).the selected one will form a part of the f-insas(future indian soldier as a system).
 

aaaditya

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well guys,indian army has mass productionised indigenously developed nbc warfare suits and will be setting up nuclear and biological command control centres in large numbers,these have been developed by drdo in partnership with private sector companies.

here check out this link:

http://www.ddinews.com/Homepage/Homepage+-+Headlines/India+begins+mass+production+of+anti-nuclear+radiation+suits.htm


India has begun mass production of anti-nuclear radiation suits for the forces guarding the country's strategic arsenal.

Simultaneously, creation of a large number of nuclear and biological warfare command centres to enable commanders to direct battle operations in nuclear environment has also been cleared by the Government on a top priority basis, according to top army sources.
"Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), along with some key private sector players, have indigenously developed the nuclear warfare gear," Army Chief Gen J J Singh has said.
"Designed by the DRDO, the gear is being inducted in a phased manner with formations likely to be prone to these kind of attacks getting it first," he said.
For the first time the army, during the just-concluded Army Commanders Conference, took stock of the preparedness of the armed forces to fight in a nuclear and biological war environment.
The country's top nuclear and biological scientists addressed the Commanders for almost whole of the last day's session briefing them minutely about induction of the nuclear protection gear, their use as also on production of nuclear command centres.
On the occasion, the army put on display protection gear, command shelters and other radiation-proof equipment on display.
The army is also undertaking to make its fighting weaponary, including main battle tanks, rugged to make them withstand nuclear radiation.
"Almost 30 per cent of our tanks are now being conditioned to enable them to take part in operations in nuclear environment," army sources said.
The new joint armed forces doctrine provides for specialised training to be imparted to troops to fight under such an environment.
"Our past few divisional and corp level exercises have been held to test new strategies and plans worked out to fight under such conditions," a top General said.
During the briefing, the DRDO scientists informed the Commanders of the status of the country's progress in nuclear weaponisation.
Briefing newsmen after the conference, the Army Chief, when asked about the induction of missiles and nuclear weapons, merely said "our demand for strategic weapons is being addressed".
 

aaaditya

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hey guys here is an interesting news article ,seems indian army is training its soldiers to cope up with avalanches by using a multimedia game.

here check out this link:

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200605021510.htm


Mumbai, May 2. (PTI): A multimedia firm here has developed an interactive 3D game to train soldiers to operate effectively in avalanche-prone areas.
The game Summit-X, recently dedicated to the nation, has been developed by animation firm Interactive Solutions and Snow and Avalanche Study Establishment (SASE), the Chandigarh- based lab of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
"It starts with a real-life situation, in which a team of four jawans and their leader has to conquer Summit-X. During the journey, they negotiate the changing terrain and avalanche-prone slopes," a member of the team, which developed the game told PTI.
Summit-X, a Windows-based interactive game, introduces users to different variables that cause an avalanche, and perfects their decision-making skills while fostering team work.
The user also has to make important decisions like choosing the approach route, food stocks and equipment.
"We have tried to reflect the real life situation in this virtual version," he said. This is one of the first attempts in the country to locally develop a full-length 3D game, instead of merely working on character or background development.
 
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