How to Strengthen PNs Surface Fleet

[pezfez]

i say no surface fleet, all agosto 90bs, that'd be cool

since that's not realistic, i say we should get the Al-something stealth corvette from the UAE, need french approval, we don't have a huge coastline and we should go for a smaller, leaner and meaner navy. so have stealth corvettes and missile boats

those f22ps look stealthy and should be pretty good once pak upgrades them with western tech, we should stick to the current 4, no more, focus more on research and development of our own ships/boats

and whoeve mentioned the a/c carrier, our whole defense budget would go to keep the carrier floating

 

[Hellscream]

some guys here are talking about getting more SSKs only but what is
needed is a better surface fleet.
Admiral Gorshkov's doctrine stated that surface elements should be used to support the submarine arm ..used as a distraction i guess
the Agosta-90Bs will face all the ASW assets the IN can throw at them.

 

[gf0012-aust]

some guys here are talking about getting more SSKs only but what is
needed is a better surface fleet.
Admiral Gorshkov's doctrine stated that surface elements should be used to support the submarine arm ..used as a distraction i guess
the Agosta-90Bs will face all the ASW assets the IN can throw at them.

Nope, I disagree a bit. The solution against a conventional sub force is as follows:

- SSN(K)'s nukes have the endurance to pace and trace a conventional - even with AIP they have to surface at some time - and when they do the nuke will tag them

- SSK same as above. use a thief to catch a thief. The best hunter killer of a sub is another sub, as they think like a sub driver and are likely to be able to anticipate what they will do

- A committed ASW aviation element running race tracks to keep the sub underwater as long as possible

- An effective ASW skimmer group.

- Sink all the replenishment vessels in the sphere of probable operation range from the subs last known contact point.

Integrate all of the above into a synchronised HK package.

 

[Aussie Digger]

I still reckon buy those Type 23 Frigates off Britain. You get World class ships very quickly (they could be transferred within months) at (probably) a fairly reasonable rate...

 

[gf0012-aust]

I still reckon buy those Type 23 Frigates off Britain. You get World class ships very quickly (they could be transferred within months) at (probably) a fairly reasonable rate...

I agree, an effective skimmer capability is essential for strike force support, convoy escort duties etc. It's all part of an essential structure for an integrated response.

 

[adsH]

SSN(K)'s nukes have the endurance to pace and trace a conventional - even with AIP they have to surface at some time - and when they do the nuke will tag them

Conflicts in the Indian Subcontinent don't tend to be Longer then the AIP Endurance underwater.

 

[gf0012-aust]

SSN(K)'s nukes have the endurance to pace and trace a conventional - even with AIP they have to surface at some time - and when they do the nuke will tag them

Conflicts in the Indian Subcontinent don't tend to be Longer then the AIP Endurance underwater.

I've never seen any wargame proposals between India and Pakistan that didn't include a war of attrition.

You plan for all seasons - not just "summer".

It's also why ASW is an integrated symbiotic solution. Different responses within the capability matrix will slip in and out of relevance