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John Fedup

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Just saw this article earlier today. In the unlikely event the US were to select the T26, it would keep Irving on its toes having a neighbour building the same type. :D It would clearly make the T26 class huge adding 20 more ships and with a few more export orders, the number could go beyond 60 ships.
 

Ranger25

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The USMC from the 31sr MEU forward based in Japan are practicing Island Hopping F35 Style. They’re seizing forward islands, securing them, and setting up FARPs for their F35Bs to operate from. The F35s can be used offensively or defensively from the island.

An interesting concept given the first and second island chains and containing the PLAN

Would match well with the US Army’s new Multi Domain and Long Range fires operations



Marines Folding F-35B into New Pacific Island-Hopping Concept - USNI News
 

ngatimozart

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The USMC from the 31sr MEU forward based in Japan are practicing Island Hopping F35 Style. They’re seizing forward islands, securing them, and setting up FARPs for their F35Bs to operate from. The F35s can be used offensively or defensively from the island.

An interesting concept given the first and second island chains and containing the PLAN

Would match well with the US Army’s new Multi Domain and Long Range fires operations



Marines Folding F-35B into New Pacific Island-Hopping Concept - USNI News
Yep it's quite an interesting concept and makes good use of the F-35B's capabilities and harkens back to the Marines flying off CACTUS (Henderson Field) in the Solomons during the Guadalcanal Campaign in WW2 I have been wondering why they can't use a ground based portable fuel pump from the fuel bladders to the F-35B rather than going thru a CH- 53 or a MV-22. Would make sense in the long run rather than having an aircraft tied up on the deck refuelling fast jets.
 

Ranger25

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Agreed, they can use about anything for a FARP. Maybe using the Ch53s for fuel transfer was a faster solution requiring less material to be brought in.

With the idea of degraded airfields in any P2P competition I’m a growing fan of the B model
 

the concerned

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I take it this would only work with places capable of conducting conventional take offs. Otherwise if they used land only fit for vertical take off the power of the F-35 would probably destroy the ground it took off from. Maybe that is something that could be developed or already has is a portable mesh that can withstand the power of the engine .
 

ngatimozart

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I take it this would only work with places capable of conducting conventional take offs. Otherwise if they used land only fit for vertical take off the power of the F-35 would probably destroy the ground it took off from. Maybe that is something that could be developed or already has is a portable mesh that can withstand the power of the engine .
Depending upon the surface type. If it was a hard smooth granite rock without cracks then it would withstand quite a bit of the heat and thrust from the engines, but vertical take offs significantly reduce payloads. For rolling take offs any flat area the same length as an America's Class flight deck, such as a concrete road or paved area, or as you say a mesh strip that withstand the heat and force from the engine thrust.
Agreed, they can use about anything for a FARP. Maybe using the Ch53s for fuel transfer was a faster solution requiring less material to be brought in.
Did think about it afterwards and it was only a proof of concept test, so makes sense to use a CH-53 for the refuelling.
With the idea of degraded airfields in any P2P competition I’m a growing fan of the B model
Yep, it's quite a versatile aircraft and people think that it only operates on / off flat decks, but they forget that the RAF had the Harrier operating remotely deployed away from fixed airfields.
 

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hauritz

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It appears that the Truman will not be retired earrly. Looks like Trump made the decision without consulting with the experts and not appreciating what the Navy could have done with the money to be saved.

Donald Trump Saves Aircraft Carrier, Ignoring Navy Advice | Time
Going against navy advice is a questionable decision but so is retiring a 21-year-old supercarrier. However this carrier is scheduled to go in for a midlife refit and cancelling that refit would save billions. That the navy doesn't seem to have enough aircraft for its current carrier fleet would also suggest that maintaining an 11 carrier fleet simply may not be viable at this point.
 
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John Fedup

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There was lots of Congressional pressure to save the USS Truman. This was an easy decision for Trump. As I have mentioned before, until the USS Ford completes a successful deployment, dumping a Nimitz class CVN doesn't seem prudent at this time.
 

ASSAIL

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There was lots of Congressional pressure to save the USS Truman. This was an easy decision for Trump. As I have mentioned before, until the USS Ford completes a successful deployment, dumping a Nimitz class CVN doesn't seem prudent at this time.
I thought that Congress had passed a “bill” or other instrument which mandated that the USN would not go under 11 x CVN’s.
Besides, Time is not Trumps best mate, they like to be considered “progressive”, anything to make POTUS look bad.
 

Redlands18

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The law is in this link below. I believe it is being violated now as I don't consider the Ford to be operational, hence there are only 10 operational CVNs. There is also a requirement for 9 air wings (10 in 2025). Given the readiness rates for USN aircraft, this may be in question also. With a debt exceeding 20 trillion, I am not surprised the law is being violated.

10 U.S. Code § 5062 - United States Navy: composition; functions
They don’t have 10 operational Nimitz CVNs and never do as one is always undergoing a MLU which includes re-fuelling and that takes 4 years.
 

John Fedup

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The Enterprise and the 10 Nimitz class CVNs made 11 thus allowing 10 with one in MLU. When Enterprise was retired the Ford was to get the fleet back to 11. As the Ford isn't ready, you are correct, there isn't 10 available.
 

John Fedup

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It was a win-win for Trump, keeping Truman helped (sort of) obeying law 5062 and it was supported by Congress for the most part. Eventually money will have to be found for making up the 4 billion the USN was expecting in savings, no easy task given the political climate and budget pressures from a leftish House of Representives.
 
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