What Would $25B Afford the Philippines in Terms of Acquiring Military Hardware?

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icefrog

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It seems to look like they need ships more than aircrafts at this juncture? Most of their problems are related to the inability to protect their naval territories. IMHO, they need frigates, corvettes, etc. to be able to show their flag in the Spratlys and Scarborough shoal (West Philippine Sea)? Presence is the best deterrence, therefore, if they have enough patrol ships in strategic locations, then the 5 Dragons will not be able to duplicate what happened at Mischief Reef. Another type of hardware is an powerful on-shore radar so they can pinpoint/observe or detect any intrusions.
They plan to get more 2nd-hand ships from Italy and possibly South Korea. Radars (both land-based and airborne) are also being eyed but unclear on who will provide it.

By the way these are what is currently being eyed and part of the initial P70-75B budget given, so far.

MANILA, Philippines—The Philippines, which is now embroiled in a territorial dispute with China, is set to acquire new warplanes in two years to upgrade its poorly-equipped air force, the defense minister said Friday.

Attack aircraft, lead-in fighter-trainers, attack helicopters and light and medium transport aircraft were all expected to be delivered within two years, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said.
Philippine Air Force to get new warplanes by 2014 | Inquirer Global Nation
 

dazzerler1

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They plan to get more 2nd-hand ships from Italy and possibly South Korea. Radars (both land-based and airborne) are also being eyed but unclear on who will provide it.

By the way these are what is currently being eyed and part of the initial P70-75B budget given, so far.



Philippine Air Force to get new warplanes by 2014 | Inquirer Global Nation

I have read at least two articles relative to meetings between the governments of the Philippines and Italy above the possible DND acquisitions of 2nd hand frigates and corvettes from Italy. Nothing has yet to materialize from those two meetings that I know of/about and/or have been publicized? Much talk about the Philippines in dire needs of these assets, however, why is it taking so long to get these plans implemented or acted upon? I would think the Phiippines should have sent a cadre of their technical experts to inspect those ships and preparation of crews to train with the Italian navy on the operation and maintenance of these ships should have occurred by now like what happened with the transfer of the Hamilton USCG cutters?
 

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I have read at least two articles relative to meetings between the governments of the Philippines and Italy above the possible DND acquisitions of 2nd hand frigates and corvettes from Italy. Nothing has yet to materialize from those two meetings that I know of/about and/or have been publicized? Much talk about the Philippines in dire needs of these assets, however, why is it taking so long to get these plans implemented or acted upon? I would think the Phiippines should have sent a cadre of their technical experts to inspect those ships and preparation of crews to train with the Italian navy on the operation and maintenance of these ships should have occurred by now like what happened with the transfer of the Hamilton USCG cutters?
They plan to make an official public announcement by the end of this month. Some speculating it could be announced by the President himself as part of his State of the Nation Address on the 23rd, if I'm not mistaken. It it doesn't definitely by the end of the month because that is their self-imposed deadline.
 

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They plan to make an official public announcement by the end of this month. Some speculating it could be announced by the President himself as part of his State of the Nation Address on the 23rd, if I'm not mistaken. It it doesn't definitely by the end of the month because that is their self-imposed deadline.
It would be nice to know how they're going to spend and divide the $1.8B funds allocated for defense materiel. They've already identified 12 TA50 LIFT, helicopters both attack and transport, radars, etc. How about infrastructure planning and build-up? I wonder how much was allocated for frigates and corvettes, and I think they're also planning to acquire another USCG Hamilton from the USA? Just thinking if they're also planning to retrofit the Hamiltons with some type of advanced radars and/or armaments/missiles and where they're going to acquire these hardware and/or munitions? Seems like they're implementing their plans sweeply and they could be spending/allocating the $1.8B in less than 5 years?
 

icefrog

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It would be nice to know how they're going to spend and divide the $1.8B funds allocated for defense materiel. They've already identified 12 TA50 LIFT, helicopters both attack and transport, radars, etc. How about infrastructure planning and build-up? I wonder how much was allocated for frigates and corvettes, and I think they're also planning to acquire another USCG Hamilton from the USA? Just thinking if they're also planning to retrofit the Hamiltons with some type of advanced radars and/or armaments/missiles and where they're going to acquire these hardware and/or munitions? Seems like they're implementing their plans sweeply and they could be spending/allocating the $1.8B in less than 5 years?
Very possible but we should wait for the official word on really how much funds is being allocated and in how many years. The P70-75B ($1.8B) is just the initial tranche on a widely believed total $10B funds allocation. P500B ($12B) was also recently suggested and increased from the original suggestion of P428B ($10B) w/c I greatly suspect is a direct result of China's aggressiveness as the original P428B suggestion was made way back 2011 before the current spat with China. The PAF already said they are building more airbases to accommodate the new air assets.

Majority of high-ticket items would probably be already acquired by 2020 or so if they stick with their structured so-called CUP phases. 2030 would be too long, IMO. China is just too aggressive and a few of the Philippines' neighbors are getting too arrogant as well, IMO.
 

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Very possible but we should wait for the official word on really how much funds is being allocated and in how many years. The P70-75B ($1.8B) is just the initial tranche on a widely believed total $10B funds allocation. P500B ($12B) was also recently suggested and increased from the original suggestion of P428B ($10B) w/c I greatly suspect is a direct result of China's aggressiveness as the original P428B suggestion was made way back 2011 before the current spat with China. The PAF already said they are building more airbases to accommodate the new air assets.

Majority of high-ticket items would probably be already acquired by 2020 or so if they stick with their structured so-called CUP phases. 2030 would be too long, IMO. China is just too aggressive and a few of the Philippines' neighbors are getting too arrogant as well, IMO.
$10 to $12B will greatly enhance the Philippines military readiness down the line including their coast guard. Where do you think they'll the sum of money? Everyone here in this forum is saying that the Philippines is broke and can't afford anything? That is why they're asking all their allies to provide assistance. However, the Philippine senate president, Juan Ponce Enrile, relative to the $30M foreign aid allocation from the USA, was saying that to just forget it because it doesn't mean much. Basically is an token aid just to say that they're providing the Philippines something, in a nutshell?
 

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$10 to $12B will greatly enhance the Philippines military readiness down the line including their coast guard. Where do you think they'll the sum of money? Everyone here in this forum is saying that the Philippines is broke and can't afford anything? That is why they're asking all their allies to provide assistance. However, the Philippine senate president, Juan Ponce Enrile, relative to the $30M foreign aid allocation from the USA, was saying that to just forget it because it doesn't mean much. Basically is an token aid just to say that they're providing the Philippines something, in a nutshell?
Yeah the 88 y.o. Senator got insulted. I think he got over that already. Kind of reminded me when some Indians either got insulted or laughed at UK when they threaten to stop giving 280 million pounds a year of aid to India if they don't choose the Eurofighter for their MMRCA.

France swoops to rob UK of £13bn Indian jet contract | Mail Online

Speaking of India and foreign reserves..... India borrowed $5B from their foreign reserves to fund infrastrure projects. It was a hotly debated subject before they were able to do it w/ of course opposite opinions from Indian economists whether it's a good idea to touch their reserves. Going fast forward, India was able to borrow $5B from their reserves and made a ff-up review to know if it was indeed a good or bad idea. The result of the review says that it was a success. Not only did they earn profit on their idle excess foreign reserves but they improved their infrastructure. This just go to show that you can borrow from your own reserves and earn some profit on interest rates than just it sitting idle. The one who borrowed will have below-market or soft loans.
 

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Yeah the 88 y.o. Senator got insulted. I think he got over that already. Kind of reminded me when some Indians either got insulted or laughed at UK when they threaten to stop giving 280 million pounds a year of aid to India if they don't choose the Eurofighter for their MMRCA.

France swoops to rob UK of £13bn Indian jet contract | Mail Online

Speaking of India and foreign reserves..... India borrowed $5B from their foreign reserves to fund infrastrure projects. It was a hotly debated subject before they were able to do it w/ of course opposite opinions from Indian economists whether it's a good idea to touch their reserves. Going fast forward, India was able to borrow $5B from their reserves and made a ff-up review to know if it was indeed a good or bad idea. The result of the review says that it was a success. Not only did they earn profit on their idle excess foreign reserves but they improved their infrastructure. This just go to show that you can borrow from your own reserves and earn some profit on interest rates than just it sitting idle. The one who borrowed will have below-market or soft loans.
This is a good thing to know. So experts are not always right after all. I'm pulling for the Philippines to do the same thing like India did. I would like to see an small country get their military armaments and stand-up to a big bully. I bat for the small guys anytime.
 

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Speaking of India and foreign reserves..... India borrowed $5B from their foreign reserves to fund infrastrure projects. It was a hotly debated subject before they were able to do it w/ of course opposite opinions from Indian economists whether it's a good idea to touch their reserves. Going fast forward, India was able to borrow $5B from their reserves and made a ff-up review to know if it was indeed a good or bad idea. The result of the review says that it was a success. Not only did they earn profit on their idle excess foreign reserves but they improved their infrastructure. This just go to show that you can borrow from your own reserves and earn some profit on interest rates than just it sitting idle. The one who borrowed will have below-market or soft loans.
There is a huge difference between what India did and what you are suggesting the Philippines do. India took a maximum of $5 billion from their foreign currency reserves and used it to finance loans for infrastructure development. They collected interest on the loans, that is how they turned a profit, the Philippines definitely won't turn a profit buying military equipment. Improving infrastructure also tends to improve the general economy, leading to higher tax revenues, buying military equipment from abroad has no tax revenue advantages.

Secondly, Indian government debt was rated at investment grade at the time this happened, The Philippines are two grades below investment grade.

Third, India has a GDP of about $1,8 trillion, The philippines has a GDP of about $200 billion.

Fourth, India took a max of $5 billion (and so far only used $1.8 billion) with their foreign currency reserves of over $250 billion, a max of 2% of their FRC. The phillipines have foreign currency reserves of about $75 billion and you are talking about taking up to 33% of that.

Fifth, India loaned this money to a government company, a loan means it is going to be paid back, presumably with the interest from the infrastructure loans. The philippines are not going to get interest or revenue from buying weapons systems.

There is no comparison between the two situations and the uses you are proposing for these reserves. Sure, the Philippines can tap into their reserves, however that would definitely not be the wise thing to do.
 

icefrog

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There is a huge difference between what India did and what you are suggesting the Philippines do. India took a maximum of $5 billion from their foreign currency reserves and used it to finance loans for infrastructure development. They collected interest on the loans, that is how they turned a profit, the Philippines definitely won't turn a profit buying military equipment. Improving infrastructure also tends to improve the general economy, leading to higher tax revenues, buying military equipment from abroad has no tax revenue advantages.

Secondly, Indian government debt was rated at investment grade at the time this happened, The Philippines are two grades below investment grade.

Third, India has a GDP of about $1,8 trillion, The philippines has a GDP of about $200 billion.

Fourth, India took a max of $5 billion (and so far only used $1.8 billion) with their foreign currency reserves of over $250 billion, a max of 2% of their FRC. The phillipines have foreign currency reserves of about $75 billion and you are talking about taking up to 33% of that.

Fifth, India loaned this money to a government company, a loan means it is going to be paid back, presumably with the interest from the infrastructure loans. The philippines are not going to get interest or revenue from buying weapons systems.

There is no comparison between the two situations and the uses you are proposing for these reserves. Sure, the Philippines can tap into their reserves, however that would definitely not be the wise thing to do.
At least you know it can be done. The real question is if it's a wise thing to do - so you are correct on that as well. My only point to cite the Indian example is to point out that it can be done because I want to counter the notion that it can't absolutely be done and whoever said that it can't is being narrow-minded or simply not aware that it is being done by countries already. However, as you know whether a country wanting to dip their fingers on their excess reserves for military modernization is a wise move or not is highly debatable and best left on the discretion of the country. Besides, we are not only talking about excess reserves (reserves in excess of 6-7 months worth of imports and liabilities) here but idle reserves. I can easily argue that the $1B (sourced from the foreign reserves I may add) the Philippines is going to contribute to the IMF for use in Europe at a measly 0.3% interest rate is not a wise move and best given as a loan to the military for much needed military procurements. But they are bent on contributing for the cause. So, that is that. In the end it is up to their discretion.
 
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SpartanSG

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Why will anybody question if the government of the Philippines decides to tap into their reserves? It is their decision to make whether it makes econmic sense or not.
Using foreign currency reserves to fund other spending, while it can be done, has a lot of implications. I will just point out 2 historical examples:

1. Asian Financial Crisis of 1997:

Timeline Of The Crash | The Crash | FRONTLINE | PBS

May 14, 1997
Thailand, with the intervention of Singapore, spends billions of dollars of its foreign reserves to defend the Thai baht against speculative attacks.

July 2, 1997
Thailand devalues the baht. News of the devaluation drops the value of the baht by as much as 20%--a record low. The Thai government requests "technical assistance" from the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
The devaluation of the Thai baht triggered the Asian Financial Crisis.

2. Black Tuesday of 1992:

Treasury papers reveal cost of Black Wednesday | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Treasury documents released today under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that the total cost of the "Black Wednesday" economic debacle of 1992 may only have been £3.3bn, rather than the £13-27bn previously estimated.
Speculative currency attacks on the British pound caused it to devalue by 20% or more.


This is the reason why countries have foreign currency reserves, to defend their currency against unwanted fluctuations. Not having sufficient reserves to do so simply invites currency speculators to mount attacks on that country's currency.

What does this mean for the Philippines? A devaluation of the peso means that exports become cheaper, but imports become more expensive. Whilst this is certainly good for the segments of the economy in the export business, the increased cost of imports will mean more expensive energy for the entire country since the Philippines is an energy importer. Using more pesos to pay for the same amount of fuel will mean the country goes into deficit, much like what happened to Thailand in 1997.
 

SpartanSG

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You made a good point about the Philippines being an energy importer. Ask yourself, why do you think the Philippine government is trying hard to keep China away from the Spratlys and Scarborough Shoal? Also, why is China trying too hard to steal all those islands and reefs in the South China Sea? Because the South China Sea is rich in gas and oil. They Philippnes if they are able to develop all those resources in the Spratlys, they will end up self sufficient in energy. The ultimate reason why they have to do everything they could to get naval ships to guard their territories even if they have to tap their foreign reserves.
The PRC claim in the South China Sea was made in 1947, before there was any knowledge of oil and gas in the area. Their claim has not changed since 1947. Hence, to say that they are claiming it solely because of the potential energy resources there is to ignore all other evidence to the contrary.

There is also the issue of the Joint Maritime Seismic Survey (JMSU) in the South China Sea that was signed between PRC, Vietnam and the Philippines in 2004. Guess which country chose not to renew the JMSU?

The JMSU: A Tale of Bilateralism and Secrecy in the South China Sea | Center for Strategic and International Studies

The wheels began to come off for the JMSU as President Arroyo’s popularity sank to sub-Ferdinand Marcos levels amid impeachment bids and growing allegations of corruption. Among the most serious corruption allegations were deals funded by China, such as the NBN transaction that was eventually cancelled and featured in headline-grabbing congressional investigations. The Philippines was criticized for breaking ranks with ASEAN, and the Philippine Congress began investigations into the JMSU and questioned whether Philippine national security interests had been bartered away. The result was passage of the Archipelago Baseline Act in February 2010, which delineates Philippine sovereign interests and restricts the government from entering into future JMSU-like agreements without due process and transparency.
Once the JMSU expired, PRC and Vietnam started doing their own surveys in the area.

While it is true that the potential energy reserves in the South China Sea will be very useful to the country/countries that can own it, what is less well known is that all these are largely estimates.

U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

One Chinese estimate suggests potential oil resources as high as 213 billion barrels of oil (bbl). A 1993/1994 estimate by the U.S. Geological Survey estimated the sum total of discovered reserves and undiscovered resources in the offshore basins of the SCS at 28 billion bbl.

As with oil, estimates of the SCS’natural gas resources vary widely.
Estimates of resources and proven resources are 2 very different things. And the estimates cannot be proven due to the tensions surrounding any attempts by any country to do proper surveys in the area to determine exactly how much resources there are. This was what the JMSU was meant to do, so that the countries know how much oil & gas they are fighting over.

Are the claimant countries now prepared to fight skirmishes over estimates (not proven resources)?
 

Twain

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I'm new here so I will not be able to attach links or quotes! This is in response to Icefrog's post.

I agree with Icefrog's response to Twain's. Why will anybody question if the government of the Philippines decides to tap into their reserves? It is their decision to make whether it makes econmic sense or not. What would they rather if they don't take some money out of their reserves and acquire what they need to at least have some minimal deterrence or allow China to steal their territories one after another? IMHO, they don't have time to wait until their government debt is investment grade like India. I think it would be too late then and what are they going to use their newly acquired minimal defensive capability if there are no territories to protect? They can't otherwise go to war with China to take back what were stolen?
People will question because it affects their credit rating. I just read today that the Government of the philippines just got upgraded by S&P to one grade below investment grade. They got upgraded in part because of their foreign currency reserves. This upgrade results in lower borrowing costs to the government. If they raid the FCR, they could easily get donwgraded, jeopardizing their long term prospects and making it more difficult to buy any weapons systems in the future.

Leaving aside all the economic issues for now, The point everyone is trying to get across is that it is not wise use foreign currency reserves to immediately buy ships and jets that the AFP is not properly trained to operate or prepared to support with infrastructure, maintenance etc.
 

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People will question because it affects their credit rating. I just read today that the Government of the philippines just got upgraded by S&P to one grade below investment grade. They got upgraded in part because of their foreign currency reserves. This upgrade results in lower borrowing costs to the government. If they raid the FCR, they could easily get donwgraded, jeopardizing their long term prospects and making it more difficult to buy any weapons systems in the future.

Leaving aside all the economic issues for now, The point everyone is trying to get across is that it is not wise use foreign currency reserves to immediately buy ships and jets that the AFP is not properly trained to operate or prepared to support with infrastructure, maintenance etc.
Yah - that worked out so very well for Libya for instance :) Aircraft sat in crates or tanks just driven straight out into the desert and parked up with neither the crews nor the maintenance available.

Better to have a stable economic environment to encourage foreign investment then use that increased tax base to fund defence spending amongst other things.
 

SpartanSG

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What is more important now, either they get what they need for defense of their terrritory or wait until there is nothing left to defend? At the time they have cash on their hands, there might not be anything left to use the frigates, corvettes, radars, aircrafts, etc. since China had stolen all their islands, reefs and atols in the South China Sea?
When PRC built structures on Mischief Reef (claimed by the Philippines) that was sighted by AFP in 1994, was there such urgency to buy hardware? Why wasn't the reserves used at that time to prevent a recurrence of such incidents?

And by the way, PRC has been taking over islands, reefs, islets, rocks, etc in the South China Sea since the Battle of Paracel Islands in 1974. Its been happening for over 30 years. And the Philippine government/military is surprised by Scarborough Shoal? Seriously?
 

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Yep, you're correct! They have been stealing islands, reefs, islets, atols, rocks, etc. because they were and are still stronger than the countries in ASEAN combined, and they will continue to keep doing until one small country put up a fight or resistance. Yeah, seriously, the Philippines was surprised what happened on Mischief Reef and now Scarborough Shoal. If you knew the history of the Philippine Islands, they owned the Scarborough Shoal since the 15th century when they were under Spain. The shoal was also used by the US Navy during gunnery practices when they were at Subic Bay, etc. China didn't try to steal the Scarborough Shoal then and they didn't claim that they own the shoal. Yes, China stole the Paracels from Vietnam too because Vietnam can't do anything about it.
To be fair, Mischief Reef surprised a lot of countries. But, after Mischief Reef, Scarborough Shoal should not have been surprising for those paying attention to what has been happening in the area for the past 10 years.

As for standing up to PRC, following Mischief Reef, the Philippines pushed for ASEAN unity so as to balance PRC. This result in the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea in 2002 (more commonly known as the DOC).

ASEANWEB - Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (2002)

The JMSU: A Tale of Bilateralism and Secrecy in the South China Sea | Center for Strategic and International Studies

... it was the Philippines that had earlier led this call for ASEAN unity when it was feeling the very real pressure of the Chinese navy on Mischief Reef and other tiny island locations in disputed territorial waters in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
However, following the signing of the DOC, the Philippines and Vietnam were seen as breaking ranks with ASEAN unity in signing the JMSU with the PRC.

The JMSU: A Tale of Bilateralism and Secrecy in the South China Sea | Center for Strategic and International Studies

The then head of the Philippine National Oil Company (PNOC) knew the players well from his days in China working for Conoco and as a highly talented Filipino manager with considerable networks at home. Manalac understood the mandate from Malacanang, the presidential palace that lies next to the languid Pasay River: get a deal done with the Chinese for joint exploration, analysis, and development of potential energy resources in the South China Sea. That mandate was at odds with internal ASEAN diplomatic discussions encouraging the 10 member states to find a common position from which they could talk with China about the disputed waters.
There are plenty of reports from around that time criticising the Philippines and Vietnam for breaking ranks with the rest of ASEAN and hence, undermining ASEAN unity. Which is probably 1 of the factors contributing to the current situation in the South China Sea.

If the members of ASEAN cannot be united amongst themselves, they can hardly expect ASEAN to be an effective grouping to negotiate with PRC.
 

icefrog

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People will question because it affects their credit rating. I just read today that the Government of the philippines just got upgraded by S&P to one grade below investment grade. They got upgraded in part because of their foreign currency reserves. This upgrade results in lower borrowing costs to the government. If they raid the FCR, they could easily get donwgraded, jeopardizing their long term prospects and making it more difficult to buy any weapons systems in the future.

Leaving aside all the economic issues for now, The point everyone is trying to get across is that it is not wise use foreign currency reserves to immediately buy ships and jets that the AFP is not properly trained to operate or prepared to support with infrastructure, maintenance etc.
First, let's establish that the PH has excess reserves. If they are going to dip their fingers on those reserves it would only be a small part of the excess reserves and not their "core" reserves for a lack of a better term. Philippines currently has 11.2 months of reserves and projected ot go up to $80B or 12 months worth of imports and liabilities. The ADB only recommends holding 3 months while the IMF only recommends holding 6-7 months and that 6-7 months recommendation already has taken into account the lessons of the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

Second, do you know that the ADB is practically begging asian countries with excess reserves to use it!? Hope your not shocked. And there are even studies saying that holding too much excess reserves is a double-edged sword?

Asian nations urged to tap idle forex reserves for dev’t

KYOTO, Japan, May 6 (AFP) — Asia’s emerging economies should spend some of their huge foreign exchange reserves to improve the lives of their people and underpin future growth, the Asian Development Bank’s chief economist said.

Asian finance ministers meeting here Saturday will discuss ways to further bolster their defences against a possible repeat of the 1997 regional financial crisis by improving their system of currency swaps.

But ADB chief economist Ifzal Ali said that guarding against possible speculative attacks on currencies should no longer be the priority.

"The challenge facing Asia is in fact too much reserves and the long term negative effects of this," he told AFP in an interview ahead of the ADB’s annual meeting in Kyoto, Japan this weekend.

"While it is not as dramatic as a crisis, over time it does eat away at opportunities for higher rates of growth, higher investments. This is particularly true for the Southeast Asian countries where investment never recovered to pre-crisis days," he said.

Developing Asia should now be considering "investing in the countries, the people, the environment, energy (and) infrastructure so that there is a better tomorrow for everybody," he added.
Asian nations urged to tap idle forex reserves for dev’t | The Manila Bulletin Newspaper Online

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BETTER USE OF HUGE FOREIGN EXCHANGE RESERVES

Foreign exchange reserves are foreign currency deposits and bonds held by central banks and monetary authorities, but also includes foreign exchange and gold, SDRs and IMF reserve positions. In a flexible exchange rate system, official international reserve assets allow a central bank to purchase the domestic currency to stabilize the value of the domestic currency if need arises. China tops the list with nearly $2.5 trillion, Japan with $ 1 trillion, Euro zone - $ 700 billion, Russia - $ 450 billion, Taiwan - £ 350 billion, while Brazil, South Korea, India, Hong Kong and Switzerland have in excess of $ 250 billion. Other than the risk of foreign currency devaluation against their own currency, it is also a huge risk to hold such large reserves in fewer asset classes such as US government federal bonds. How can such large reserves to better use and to stimulate jobs and income?

1) High technology, bio technology and clean energy venture capital fund
2) Trusting the politicians and bureaucrats with such huge sums of capital
3) Special Entrepreneurship Zones
4) Create new business hubs outside current metros
5) Exit strategy
Intellitrest | Economics | Intelli5 | Better use of huge foreign exchange reserves

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“Asia needs to use its reserves more productively regardless of whether it is to set up financial safety nets or to invest more,” said Rajat Nag, managing director of the Asian Development Bank, which holds its annual meeting May 3-6 in Hanoi. “We are long gone past that situation in the late ‘90s, and Asian countries need to make more aggressive investments with their reserves, including in infrastructure.”
Asia Seeks to Diversify Record Foreign-Exchange Reserves as Dollar Falls - Bloomberg

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In my humble opinion, as long as it is used productively and in moderation it won't be taken as a negative. This includes using some for military modernization. It's not like the PH gov't will not pay back what they will borrow from their own Central Bankn It should be taken as a loan or even a soft loan to themselves and not "raiding it" w/o prospect of paying back ever. And military modernization to safeguard your natural resources and to protect your people w/c is actually basic responsibility can be construed as an "investment".

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Twain

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First, let's establish that the PH has excess reserves. If they are going to dip their fingers on those reserves it would only be a small part of the excess reserves and not their "core" reserves for a lack of a better term. Philippines currently has 11.2 months of reserves and projected ot go up to $80B or 12 months worth of imports and liabilities. The ADB only recommends holding 3 months while the IMF only recommends holding 6-7 months and that 6-7 months recommendation already has taken into account the lessons of the 1997 Asian financial crisis.
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Not a single one of those links advocated for using FRC to buy weapons systems let alone weapons systems a country is ill prepared to maintain and operate. In fact all three of your links called for doing essentially what India did, invest in infrastructure and economic development. Weapons purchased from overseas are not and will never be economic development. You are trying to say (somehow) that purchasing submarines, ships and jets is somehow the same as investing in infrastructure and economic development, that is absolutely not correct. Purchasing these items from overseas is about as far from economic development as you can get. Those links in no way support your claim.

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