Russian Air Force News & Discussion

Sandhi Yudha

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If im not wrong Russia exported at least 3 Mi-28s to Uganda. Ill search later for articles.
Edit: Found.


According to www.scramble.nl the VVS received 3 Su-34M strike fighters in december 2022. This last batch of three Su-34Ms of the year 2022 amounts the total number of delivered Su-34M aircraft to 14 units, with the total number of all Su-34s built reaching 153 (incl. seven experimental and pre-production aircraft).


But here also some Tu-160 news....
Two Tu-160M/M2 strategic missile carriers were rolled out at the Kazan Aviation Plant (KAZ) on 30 december. The rolled out aircraft represent the fourth Tu-160 upgraded to the Tu-160M level (serial 2-02), as well as the second strategic bomber from the new production (serial 9-01), a type often referred to as Tu-160M2 in order to distinguish between upgrades and newly built aircraft.


Russian Aerospace Forces received three more Su-34M front-line bombers
 
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TayJG

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If im not wrong Russia exported at least 3 Mi-28s to Uganda. Ill search later for articles.
Edit: Found.


According to www.scramble.nl the VVS received 3 Su-34M strike fighters in december 2022. This last batch of three Su-34Ms of the year 2022 amounts the total number of delivered Su-34M aircraft to 14 units, with the total number of all Su-34s built reaching 153 (incl. seven experimental and pre-production aircraft).


But here also some Tu-160 news....
Two Tu-160M/M2 strategic missile carriers were rolled out at the Kazan Aviation Plant (KAZ) on 30 december. The rolled out aircraft represent the fourth Tu-160 upgraded to the Tu-160M level (serial 2-02), as well as the second strategic bomber from the new production (serial 9-01), a type often referred to as Tu-160M2 in order to distinguish between upgrades and newly built aircraft.


Russian Aerospace Forces received three more Su-34M front-line bombers
I actually find it amazing that Russia was able to build new fighter and bombers and upgrade bombers. Where do you suppose they got the computer chips from.

Incidentally the losses in Su-34's in Ukraine is astounding, no?
 

TayJG

Member
A summary of the total number of new-build tactical fixed-wing combat aircraft that are known to have been delivered to the Russian MoD in 2022:
1. Su-57: 8 (VKS)
2. Su-35S: 6-7 (VKS)
3. Su-34M: 10-12 (VKS)
4. Su-30SM2: 4 (Naval Aviation)
Total: 28-31

Losses so far in Ukrainian war:

18 Su-34s & 9 Su-24M/MRs (total 27)
11 Su-30SMs & 1 Su-35S (total 12)
23 Su-25-series ground attack aircraft and one MiG-31BM interceptor.

Source:
So even if they have produced more than I would have expected in spite of sanctions, their losses have also been quite significant.

Does anybody know the situation for Russian export aircraft for 2022?
Nice post, I was just thinking to myself: I know they took big time losses in Su-30's and Su-34's but I don't remember exactly how many.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
I actually find it amazing that Russia was able to build new fighter and bombers and upgrade bombers. Where do you suppose they got the computer chips from.
Neither Russia nor China (& especially not Russia) makes the fastest processors, but they do makes chips, & I expect China will sell some, though not necessarily its best, to Russia. And what chips? There are different types for different functions & different performance levels. The latest & highest performance aren't necessarily needed, but ideally you want physically robust chips, with some hardening against EMP, & with good enough performance to do the tasks needed.

And they have to be used right.
 

TayJG

Member
Neither Russia nor China (& especially not Russia) makes the fastest processors, but they do makes chips, & I expect China will sell some, though not necessarily its best, to Russia. And what chips? There are different types for different functions & different performance levels. The latest & highest performance aren't necessarily needed, but ideally you want physically robust chips, with some hardening against EMP, & with good enough performance to do the tasks needed.

And they have to be used right.
You think China sells them chips even though doing so could trigger sanctions against China?
 

swerve

Super Moderator
What sanctions? For selling Chinese technology? US & EU sanctions prohibit the selling of US & EU technology to Russia, not Chinese-designed chips made in China with Chinese technology.

China's deeply enmeshed in supply lines for Western industry, & I think it already supplies most of Russia's chip imports without anyone objecting.
 

TayJG

Member
What sanctions? For selling Chinese technology? US & EU sanctions prohibit the selling of US & EU technology to Russia, not Chinese-designed chips made in China with Chinese technology.

China's deeply enmeshed in supply lines for Western industry, & I think it already supplies most of Russia's chip imports without anyone objecting.
Yeah that's right. If you think the West won't sanction China for selling weapons parts or complete weapons to Russia, I don't know what to tell you. That's a fundamental misread of international politics and domestic US politics.

US would be more than happy to unmesh China from Western industry. It has already moved in that direction.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
If western countries were going to impose sanctions on China for selling chips to Russia they'd have done it already. China's already selling chips to Russia. It was doing to before the war.

It would take time & a lot of money to replace Chinese goods. Trying to do it in one fell swoop, in current circumstances, would be very damaging indeed.

Nobody is going to try it. It can only be a long-term goal.
 

TayJG

Member
China's already selling chips to Russia.
Do you have a source which states this?

@TayJG

You appear to be overly combative in your posting style. I suggest ...strongly ... you moderate this, particulalry as even a basic media search indicates there is a chip trade (either in equipment or of the chips themselves) from China to Russia.

In respect to your one liner ... A very quick search of press reports notes a significant drop in exports of equipment with chips and a ban on banned exports of Loongson CPUs based on the LoongArch microarchitecture to Russia. China do export to Russia but have prohibited the shipment of these specific chips.


China cuts shipments to Russia of smartphones, laptops and other tech - The Washington Post
Chinese Longsoon chips not going to Russia (fudzilla.com)

Evidence in the ongoing chip export to Russia is evident from the October 2022 reporting of quality issues with Chinese chips in Russia

Defect rate of Chinese chips shipped to Russia surged to 40 per cent after Western sanctions, local newspaper says | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)

I note you have already been warned by another Mod so I will not assign points this time. If the behaviour continues I will apply a sanction depending on the nature of your actions.

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Feanor

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Staff member
A summary of the total number of new-build tactical fixed-wing combat aircraft that are known to have been delivered to the Russian MoD in 2022:
1. Su-57: 8 (VKS)
2. Su-35S: 6-7 (VKS)
3. Su-34M: 10-12 (VKS)
4. Su-30SM2: 4 (Naval Aviation)
Total: 28-31

Losses so far in Ukrainian war:

18 Su-34s & 9 Su-24M/MRs (total 27)
11 Su-30SMs & 1 Su-35S (total 12)
23 Su-25-series ground attack aircraft and one MiG-31BM interceptor.

Source:
So even if they have produced more than I would have expected in spite of sanctions, their losses have also been quite significant.

Does anybody know the situation for Russian export aircraft for 2022?
An alternate version of this list, from CAST.

Su-57 - 6 aircraft - 2 in May, 4 in December, with one of the last batch meant for the first line unit, the 23rd Air Rgt in Dzemgi
Su-35S 7 aircraft - 3 in Sep, 4 in Dec, all are speculated to be in the 119th Training Center
Su-34M 10 aircraft - 4 in June, 3 in Nov, 3 in Dec, 4 went into the 277th Bomber Rgt to begin re-arming the 3rd squadron, 2 went to a testing center, 3 went to an unspecified unit and 1 went conveniently missing, possibly being used to replace losses in an existing unit
Su-30SM2 - 4 aircraft - all likely went to the Baltic Fleet's 34th Dive-bomber Rgt.
Yak-130 - 2 aircraft.


Conspicuously absent are MiG-35s, if there is any sense, this project will be quietly shut down.
 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Update.

The third upgraded Tu-160M has flown. The program is proceeding, and will likely be successful, if only due to the very small fleet size.


The 5th Il-76MD-90A produced in 2022. A total of 18 have been produced so far.


Footage of the handover of the last batch of 4 Su-35S from 2022.

 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Update.

A new Russian cruise missile was spotted at Raduga recently, type unknown. The nose looks like it might be radio-penetrable, i.e. the missile has a radar seeker head.


A good photo of Russia's new gliding bomb up close and personal.


Production of a Be-200ChS for Algeria. It's very unclear how Russia intends to produce the type or operate them even, considering the engines.


The VVS have received 3 new Su-34M and 4 new Su-57.


Also the second new-built Tu-160 was rolled out. While this program is questionable financially and technologically, Russia does need a Tu-95 replacement and the state of the PAK-DA is unclear.


A modified Lancet variant was shown at a Russian arms show, with the aerodynamics changed. It still has two sets of X-wings, but one much smaller, and the other larger.

 

T.C.P

Active Member
A modified Lancet variant was shown at a Russian arms show, with the aerodynamics changed. It still has two sets of X-wings, but one much smaller, and the other larger.


This lancet looks a lot like the Iranian loitering munition


there is a better photo of this, in white, I cant find it right now, but ti looks exactly like a smaller lancet. I wonder for how long there has been coop between the Russians and Iranian considering suicide drones.
 

Feanor

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Staff member
This lancet looks a lot like the Iranian loitering munition


there is a better photo of this, in white, I cant find it right now, but ti looks exactly like a smaller lancet. I wonder for how long there has been coop between the Russians and Iranian considering suicide drones.
The wings don't look similar to be at all. That having been said there are a finite number of efficient aerodynamic layouts to use, so some munitions will end up looking somewhat similar from certain angles with no design connection. It is of course possible, but I don't see it. If you have a better photo, please do share.
 
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