The total program cost of the Le Triomphant and M51 programs, from 1985 to 2005 has been nearly €25 billion.Some thoughts, not really all fitting together...
The (new) SSBNs have been eating up money, quite literally. The Le Triomphant class apparently has had a total program cost of some €13 billion (2002 estimate) for the four subs! You could buy 25 Horizons for that money easily, and still have a billion or so left.
Afaik, that figure would also include:The total program cost of the Le Triomphant and M51 programs, from 1985 to 2005 has been nearly €25 billion.
Which brings us to another interesting observation.:
That since 1980 the Royal Navy has seen its escort force reduced from 66 combatants to 25 or a 62% reduction.
The Marine Nationale from 48(including the cruiser Colbert) combatants to 33 only a 31% reduction.
I included the two new Horizon replacments for the Suffrens in the above calculations.
Although to be sure the nine A-69s, 6 Floreal and 5 La Fayettes all have severe combat limitations.
Their ASW/AAW capability is either extremely limited or nonexistent depending on the class.
D'Estienne d' Orves class corvettes have escorted 3 humanitarian convoys destined for Somalia;the last convoy arrived on December 17. They were protecting the convoys from pirates.Can the 10 1100 ton D'Estienne d'Orves class corvettes really be classed as escorts? I mean you wouldn't send to the other side of the world to fight in a war, would you?
The new Dutch patrol ships look interesting. One curious feature is that although lightly armed (76mm & a couple of MGs), they have a rather good sensor suite....l.
The only real issue I have is that the A-69s have no organic helo.
As Ive said before though an OPV (some call it a frigate) like the Floreals could (Should?) be built as replacements.
Those ships too have been quite useful to the MN.
Yes, & it's not obvious where they'd put one. IIRC, you said something similar in the thread on this class....
And yes Im a bit surprised(as I said before) no AAW missile system is fitted for at least point defence...
Im looking fwd to see how this platform develops.
Ideal structure IMHO of the escort force :
11 ASW and LA (land attack) FREMMs
2 AAW FREMMs
2 Jean Bart AAW FFGs to be replaced around 2020 by 2 more AAW FREMMs
5 Lafayette overseas light FFGs
6 Floreal 'colonial' OPVs
The VL Mica with the Arabel radar would be a good combination. The MN could also use VL Crotale, and just upgrade the La Fayettes ASW systems.It depends what you want to do with the Gowinds. Patrolling the Med or the Red Sea or the Persian Gulf doesn't require long range ships with heavy ASW assets.
Besides, if you modernize the Lafayettes you can easily replace the Crotale NG with Aster-15, but placing a Herakles is a radical restructuring. Adding serious ASW would require VDS and towed array low frequency active/passive sonar. All is feasible for sure, but expensive.
An alternative could be to develop something in between FREMM and Gowind and to do a joint Italian-French programme to gain some scale. While the Italian corvettes and light frigates are still recent (Artigliere and Minerva classes) we'll eventually have to replace them.
On verra bien...