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Discussion in 'Navy & Maritime' started by gf0012-aust, Jul 8, 2014.

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  1. gf0012-aust

    gf0012-aust Grumpy Old Man Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    I thought this purchase was encouraged by the Swedish govt, mainly to ensure that there is the ability to design and build submarines in Sweden, something that was under threat with German ownership.
     
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    I bet the Taiwanese would be very excited about the opportunity to buy some new Soryu-class submarines from the Australians. Probably a few other countries in the region would be interested as well-it's a great alternative to either German or South Korean license-built boats.

    As far as Messr Palmer's suggestion...I think nuke boats are bridge too far for the Australian public-and I'm not sure they would really fit well with what the Aussies do with their boats.
     
  5. gf0012-aust

    gf0012-aust Grumpy Old Man Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    I worked for a contractor who had a relationship with Collins development and with the Taiwanese. The CSI in Taiwan were desperate to get access to Collins either at discretionary tech levels or as a turnkey. It was a political bridge too far - getting a co-op boat via Japan and Aust would be a bigger bridge to cross

    Palmers comments are a good example of where he's either done no research or been provided with poor advice.

    A nuke driven boat is out of the question - and poss for another generation at least
     
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    gf0012-aust Grumpy Old Man Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    I worked for a contractor who had a relationship with Collins development and with the Taiwanese. The CSI in Taiwan were desperate to get access to Collins either at discrtetionary tech levels or as a turnkey. It was a political bridge too far - getting a co-op boat via Japan and Aust would be a bigger bridge to cross

    Palmers comments are a good example of where he's either done no research or been provided with poor advice.

    A nuke driven boat is out of the question - and poss for another generation at least
     
  7. Joe Black

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    I think ASC could have simply provided the tech know-how or play the advisory role. Taiwan should build their own subs. First of may be a really expensive affair, but subsequent boats and future classes will be much easier.
     
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    gf0012-aust Grumpy Old Man Staff Member Verified Defense Pro

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    No, not evem remotely under consideration - political hot potato

    they've wanted to partner up before with numerous others - every time they try the mainland gets grumpy with the suitor

    not enough capability and internal political climate to build their own.
     
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    Has anything been made public regarding the level of co operation between Japan and Australia for closer defence ties (and Sub's)?

    I assume we may partner on a number of future Naval programs
     
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    Fincantieri Started Work on First Qatari Navy Air Defense Corvette

    The steel cutting ceremony of the first “Doha” class corvette ordered to Fincantieri by the Qatari Ministry of Defence within the national naval acquisition programme, took place on July 30 at the Muggiano (La Spezia) yard, in the presence of the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of State of Qatar for Defence Affairs, His Excellency Khalid Bin Mohamed Al Attiyah and the Italian Minister of Defence, Elisabetta Trenta, welcomed by the Chairman and the CEO of Fincantieri Giampiero Massolo and Giuseppe Bono.
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    We have requirements that posters provide some commentary rather than just cutting and pasting articles. Your posting habits have begun to concern the Moderators. If you are posting just pictures or videos, please post them in the Photos & Video section rather than within the specific topics unless you are using them to illustrate a point that you are making in a related post.

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    Nous avons des exigences pour que les affiches fournissent des commentaires plutôt que de simplement copier et coller des articles. Vos habitudes de publication ont commencé à concerner les Modérateurs. Si vous ne publiez que des photos ou des vidéos, veuillez les publier dans la section Photos et Vidéo plutôt que dans les rubriques spécifiques, sauf si vous les utilisez pour illustrer un point que vous avez créé dans un message associé.

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    Ok on other forums they dont have these rules and i have always posted as it since many years sometimes i add a little comment so I did not know ...after for what i don't have posted links ? normaly for all articles i did curious.

    For pics i post actual pic in relation to the news … so if i post out for me not the right topic…
    P.S : pics i catch in general in social medias and i don't save links ofc.

    Say to me please what are exactly you concerns.
     
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