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kato

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12. A viral video of a woman deliberately coughing on masked shoppers at a Nebraska grocery store while laughing and calling them “sheep” has a perhaps-not-altogether-surprising local angle: the woman appears to be from Scottsdale. It took amateur sleuths just a few days to identify the woman as Janene Hoskovec, who at that time worked for SAP — a longtime Scottsdale resident, at least according to her social media. SAP put out a brief statement on Twitter, apparently in reference to the incident. “The health and safety of our employees and the communities in which we live and work are of utmost concern to us,” it reads. “We are taking the matter of an SAP employee incident very seriously and investigating the situation.” Later, SAP says she's no longer with the company.
Since SAP global HQ is about 20 km from where i sit that one made the local newspaper here. The case is a tad more complicated in that there are no investigations against the woman by the police department in the US (as there have been in similar cases) as no one - being coughed/spit on - has come forward accusing her. SAP simply fired her using the atrociously bad US employee rights without all that much investigation, they don't have any particular ties or long-term employment with her - she previously worked for HP and IBM among others.
Police however is now investigating those "amateur sleuths" for falsely identifying another woman to be her, leading to online and real-life harassment.

P.S.: SAP requires vaccination or testing from its employees throughout the company and has had 90% of its global workforce in home office since the beginning of the pandemic, currently extended until at least June '22.
 
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ngatimozart

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12. A viral video of a woman deliberately coughing on masked shoppers at a Nebraska grocery store while laughing and calling them “sheep” has a perhaps-not-altogether-surprising local angle: the woman appears to be from Scottsdale. It took amateur sleuths just a few days to identify the woman as Janene Hoskovec, who at that time worked for SAP — a longtime Scottsdale resident, at least according to her social media. SAP put out a brief statement on Twitter, apparently in reference to the incident. “The health and safety of our employees and the communities in which we live and work are of utmost concern to us,” it reads. “We are taking the matter of an SAP employee incident very seriously and investigating the situation.” Later, SAP says she's no longer with the company.
We had a mongerel here in Christchurch who during the first lockdown not once but twice got done for walking into a local supermarket and spitting on the public in there. After the second time he was sent to prison. Think he may have just got out.
 

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Thanks to Gov. Greg Abbott, a classmate of mine who stayed in Texas for decades after graduation, felt she had to move back to Singapore (and serve a quarantine period too), for safety reasons as the Covid-19 outbreak there is out of control.

The irony is that after her quarantine, she is free to go out but Singapore has had the largest Covid-19 outbreak in recent months with 813 warded. Thankfully, she retained her Singapore citizenship and we welcome her back with open arms.

Delta is really kicking our collective butt in Singapore — even with our high vaccination rate. A total of 8,903,190 doses have been administered in Singapore under the national vaccination programme as at 16 Sep 2021.
 
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kato

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In Germany an anti-masker fatally shot a gas station employee last saturday after being kicked out for not wearing a mask (as legally required) while buying beer.

Might be the first such case outside the US (they had a shooting spree over mask policy at a store in June).
 

kato

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Makes perfect sense! Jurgen Klopp on being vaccinated — it’s to protect others around you. If you drink, don’t drive — it’s to protect others around you. Same with vaccination — protect the service workers you interact with.
The soccer industry - and it is an industry in Germany, with a rather heavy-handed lobby section - wants people vaccinated for one sole reason: Because the pesky state still requires 3G rules (vaccinated, recovered or tested) for people attending stadiums as about the last rule imposed on them.

They already threw around enough weight to have both mask rules and attendance caps lifted (the last cap was 25,000 - now they can fill em up again).

Meanwhile soccer players themselves get infected by the scores (as in, there's more clubs with infected players than without - and yes, with vaccination), and especially in more local leagues soccer matches tend to be regular primary spreader events for the audience...
 

John Fedup

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In Germany an anti-masker fatally shot a gas station employee last saturday after being kicked out for not wearing a mask (as legally required) while buying beer.

Might be the first such case outside the US (they had a shooting spree over mask policy at a store in June).
Sad event for sure and some real incentive for application of the death penalty.
 

ngatimozart

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Sad event for sure and some real incentive for application of the death penalty.
Think that the death penalty is somewhat of an overkill. I am not really in favour of it except in the most extreme of circumstances. I can think of far more suitable and more to the point, appropriate punishments that will drive the point home.
 

kato

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P.S. on soccer:
And coincidentally today our local 2nd Federal league club is announcing that it may have to cancel their match tomorrow due to Covid making the rounds among their players, with new infections discovered in three separate sequential test series.

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Main group getting infected right now in Germany is youths though, due to schools having switched back to mostly presence learning this school year.
Incidence map for age group 10-19 by RKI for Germany from their current weekly report (due to political pressure they only report incidence rates once a week now, but in turn go into more detail).

While anti-lockdown lobbyists largely claim that the high incidence rate is due to mandatory testing in schools it is precisely one state (Thuringia) that that has the highest incidence rates in the country, with a statewide rate above 300 per 100,000 youths per week and some areas above 1000. Thuringia abandoned regular testing - and masks - in schools three weeks ago and only tests youths with symptoms, meaning their undetected actual incidence rate is much higher than that.
 

swerve

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Looking at the map, I can see the dark red area in the middle: Thuringen. Sudden drop in incidence across its western & north-western borders, in northern Hessen & south-eastern Niedersachsen. It's almost as if the fence is still there.

Seems as if there may be a correlation with voting patterns across the country as a whole.
 

kato

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Seems as if there may be a correlation with voting patterns across the country as a whole.
Nah, there's a correlation with state borders since both lockdown politics and school politics are state-level.

Infection waves in the schools, while correlating with the population-wide waves, are somewhat curtailed by exactly when schools go on break and what set of rules is currently active in the state.

The below shows the waves time-wise in Rhineland-Palatinate state as an example - the chart shows the number of infected students and teachers at public schools on any given day since the start of this year, the breaks are when school is on vacation:

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Other states start their school year - after the summer break - at different times, hence why a "current image" may shift slightly. Rhineland-Palatinate above just had an autumn school break this week, hence why on the RKI map their current numbers are very "mixed". For scale: Rhineland-Palatinate has 515,000 school students and 50,000 teachers, the current number of 1,093 means 0.2% of them are actively infected (global numbers for entire population of Germany: 0.15%). Since schools are closed for that break there is no specific outbreak in one district or school that could be isolated, the cases are instead spread individually across the entire state.

Thuringia will only have such an autumn break starting on the 25th - that's when you will see their numbers drop rapidly and go for similar diffusion afterwards (same for Bavaria, where numbers are also relatively high).

Within the states the numbers to some extent (but not always) correlate with population density. Hence why e.g. that yellow patch in the swamps north of Berlin or those in the Vogelsberg and Taunus mountain ranges north of Frankfurt. The drops at border regions have to do with that, these tend to be low-population (and economically distraught) areas - especially so at the former East/West border.

Lockdown politics also play a role at state level. The highest numeric districts can all be pinned to those specific states (Thuringia, Bavaria, Saarland) that have lifted mask requirements in schools to various extent; among the three only Thuringia also does not test students anymore. Northrhine-Westfalia and Baden-Württemberg are planning to follow them next week, which will definitely be "interesting times".
 

kato

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P.S. on soccer:
And coincidentally today our local 2nd Federal league club is announcing that it may have to cancel their match tomorrow due to Covid making the rounds among their players, with new infections discovered in three separate sequential test series.
P.P.S.: Now cancelled with 17 out of 30 players of the club infected, that includes their youth cadre. A good number of the remaining 13 are players who were not taking part in training in recent days due to other injuries.
 
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