18 units of the two-seater F/A-18 F Super Hornet to the Royal-MAF

Frozen Hell

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These Malaysians are on roll! Jets from russia, from USA... apaches from USA, whats up?

Who are they preparing for?

Boeing hopes to seal Super Hornets deal by year end
LANGKAWI Oct 2 - Boeing hopes to sell 18 units of the two-seater F/A-18 F Super Hornet to the Royal Malaysian Air Force and the deal is expected to be sealed by the end of the year, it was announced Thursday.

Negotiations for the sale had been ongoing since the 2001 Langkawi International Maritime & Aerospace Exhibition (2001 LIMA) but the time taken by the Malaysian government to decide was "as expected", said Anthony M Parasida, president of the F/A-18 Programme in the Boeing Company's Integrated Defense Systems.

"It's a very important decision for Malaysia, it's good for the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) and for the people of Malaysia. I think the Malaysian government is doing a good job to make this the best possible jet deal," he told Bernama on the sidelines of the aerospace show of the 2003 LIMA here.

Saying that Boeing had put in much efforts to meet RMAF's requirements, he added that the deal was not meant to be signed during this year's LIMA which ends on Sunday.

Parasida said while he could not speak on behalf of the Malaysian government on the length of time it had taken to make its decision on the Super Hornet purchase, it was neverthless "a very major decision."

As part of the arrangement to sell the Super Hornets, the Boeing Company has also devised an offset programme which takes into consideration the requirements of the Eighth Malaysia Plan. Under its offset programme, the Boeing Company wants to help expand the knowledge-based environment in Malaysia.

In addition, the company also wants to work with local industry players in the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) to develop software for its own requirements.

Parasida said the Boeing Company would like to include bio-technology in the offset progamme and this could be done through its relations with foundations and universities in the US which have expertise on the subject.

He also said he was impressed with the availability of facilities, skills and technology locally and these would make the transfer of technology by Boeing into a "win-win situation for both sides."

Asked on the expected delivery of the Super Hornets should Malaysia decide to acquire the strike fighter, Parasida said: "Hopefully we will be talking about it coming into service at the 2005 LIMA."

He also praised LIMA for making it possible for the Boeing Company to promote its products such as the F/A-18.

"Yesterday (Wednesday), we had a great opportunity to have the Prime Minister (Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad) to get into the F/A-18 on static display.

"We had the opportunity to spend 30 minutes with him, he gets to sit in the airplane and see the technology, look at the airplane and see the parts that Malaysian companies will be fabricating for the Super Hornet," Parasida said.

"That kind of access, we would never have without a show like LIMA."

As for the likely Super Hornet components that Malaysian companies could produce should Malaysia decides to buy the aircraft, he said they might include machine parts, sheet metal parts, composite parts and other advanced technology that went into the fighter jets.
http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/con...an_Express&sec=Corporate&pg=co_01.htm
 

Oqaab

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Man, the malysians are concentrating in buying high-tech aircrafts like Su-30MKM and Super Hornets. A powerful airforce indeed.
 

Red aRRow

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Malaysia has started this shopping spree ever since Australian Prime minister John Howard (or is he president??) made some irresponsible comments and tried to assert his non-existent authority in the asia pacific region. Now Australia will be pissing in their pants if they even think about to any pre emptive action against anyone like Howard was saying :D :D
 

Oqaab

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I was reading an article about Agosta 90B submarine which said that Malaysia is interested in Agostas and currently it is negotiating with Pakistan but on the other hand Australia made a request not to sell these subs to Malaysia.
 

Red aRRow

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Why would Australia object? :mad
If Malaysia wants the sub then Pakistan should supply. Period!!! :smokingc:
 

Oqaab

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shamayel said:
Who the hell gives a crap about Australia?? :mad
If Malaysia wants the sub then Pakistan should supply. Period!!! :smokingc:
The same thing US did, i.e requested Pakistan to export agostas to Saudi Arabia without the stealth systems. :mad
 

wzhtg

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Well, malaysia has already brought scorpene submarines and the 1 agosta submarine for training.

Here are two articles about MY's purchase in LIMA 2003 as well as articles of MY's possible futre buys.

1.Russia to supply Malaysia with 10 troop-carrying helicopters



RBC, 01.10.2003, Moscow 11:57:38.The Russian state-run arms exporting agency Rosoboronexport made a $70-million contract with the Malaysian government on supplying Malaysia with ten Mi-171 troop-carrying helicopters. The contract was signed within the seventh international aerospace and maritime exhibition LIMA 2003. Rosoboronexport is planning to start supplies in 2004.


2.Malaysia Signs Contract for 11 A109s LOH


(Source: Agusta Spa; issued Oct. 2, 2003)


AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica and GKN company, has been awarded a contract by the Malaysian Ministry of Defence for the supply of eleven Agusta A109 Light Observation Helicopter (LOH) together with an initial product support and training package. The aircraft will be operated by Malaysian Army Aviation. The contract is worth more than 70 Million US$ and includes a substantial package of Transfer of Technology to the Malaysian Industries.

The A109 LOH, a version of the well known A109 LUH, has been selected as the best cost effective machine upon a rigorous process of evaluation run by the Malaysian Ministry of Defence against several competitors. The primary purpose of the LOH is to serve as a cost efficient system for observation, reconnaissance, tactical transport and area suppression missions.

The selection of the A109 helicopter by Malaysian Army Aviation follows the aircraft’s successes with the South African and Sweden Armed Forces, and established the A109 LUH, with 61 units ordered till now, as the foremost light twin engine helicopter for military utility and advanced training purposes. It provides further testimony of the A109 LUH’s competitiveness, versatility and performance.

AgustaWestland is a technology leader in its markets backed by a solid financial pedigree. The Company has an established product portfolio ranging from the innovative 2.5 ton light single-engine A119 Koala to the 15-ton three-engine EH101 helicopter. Other products include the light twin A109 Power, the medium-lift AB412 and AB139, the A129 multi role combat helicopter, the twin engine Super Lynx and the 10 ton NH90, in which Agusta has a 32% stake.

Malaysia To Develop Hghly-sophisticated Radar Satellite


By Mohd Haikal Isa

LANGKAWI, Oct 4 (Bernama) - After successfully developing two optical satellites -- the TiungSat and RazakSat, Astronautics Technology Sdn Bhd (ATSB) is gearing itself to manufacture radar satellites by joining hands with EADS Astrium, the European defence consortium.

ATSB, a Ministry of Finance-owned company Friday signed an industrial collaboration agreement with EADS during the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition (LIMA 03).

The agreement was witnessed by Defence Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

Its managing director Dr Ahmad Sabirin Arshad, in an exclusive interview with Bernama today, said that the agreement was a crucial step in expanding Malaysia's technology base in radar satellite.

He said that the agreement was different as it could pave the way for EADS's scientists to be stationed in Malaysia and the purchase of ATSB's hardware and programmes by European defence consortium.

Ahmad Sabirin said that for a country like Malaysia, mastering the radar satellite technology was vital due to several reasons and EADS Astrium is the right partner for the venture.

"Radar is an important payload for Malaysia because we have so much cloud coverage over the region and over the equator. With the radar payload, we could capture images at any weather be it day or night," he said.

EADS, being the second largest aerospace company in the world after Boeing, provided ATSB with the innovative solutions in terms of radar satellite.

He said that Radar satellite is a big satellite, but ATSB, being a microsatellite manufacturer, wanted to make it smaller and was fortunate to find an equal partner which has the technology.

"They (EADS) came up with an innovative solutions. Small radar satellite is in line with ATSB's aim to build small satellites. We believe that ATSB should not be doing the technology of the past but instead concentrate on the future."

"Smaller satellites are the future," he said.

Asked when Malaysian could expect the first product to come out from its venture with EADS Astrium, Ahmad Sabirin said he expected both companies to start developing the harware for radar satellites in June 2004.

"But a full blown radar satellite could only be expected in 2007 because the development requires time," he said.

Officials from ATSB and EADS Astrium would start negotiations on the matter immediately.

He also said that other local companies are expected to benefit from the spinoffs as a result of the venture.


3.Saab At Advanced Talks To Sell AEW&C To RMAF


LANGKAWI, Oct 5 (Bernama) -- Saab AB, the biggest defence equipment company in northern Europe, is at advanced stage of negotiations to sell its most advanced surveillance system to the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF).

Saab International Senior Vice-President Bo Rastedt said the talks have been going on for about seven to eight years and the RMAF might decide on the matter soon.

"If I should guess, I hope we should get something in four to six months," he told Bernama on the sidelines of the six-day LIMA `03 Exhibition that ends Sunday.

The System, the Saab 2000 ERIEYE AEW&C (Aircraft Early Warning & Control) is the most modern tactical surveillance system today.

The company felt four of such systems are adequate for Malaysia to have a 24-hour nationwide air surveillance.

It was reported recently that the RMAF needed four of such systems.

Besides Saab, the other main contenders are Boeing and Northrop Grumman.

The Saab Surveillance System solves both national and international interoperability issues, such as search and rescue operations, surveillance and control of national borders and economic zones, detection of illegal activities (illegal immigration) and drug trafficking.

Saab Surveillance System includes a highly mobile sensor system that have a coverage distance of up to 450km. The sensor is placed on top of a fuel-efficient Saab 2000 turbo prop regional aircraft that can fly eight to 10 hours non-stop.

The Saab 2000 is bigger than the Saab 340 airplane used in the Swedish army-owned Saab Surveillance System. The larger aircraft has space to accommodate more than five people to operate the five working stations onboard.

"We've received interest from some countries in this area. So far, we hope Malaysia will be the first one (to acquire the Saab Surveillance System)," said Rastedt.

On pricing, he said, it depends on what RMAF would put onboard.



4.MY is considering to buy several more new frigates October 2 2003, 3:00 AM

i came up with rumours that MY navy will get 2 or more used frigates to complement the existing ones a few months ago. Well, it looks like the BAE is one of the contender. Maybe based on the prev jebat-class with improved performance.

BAE eyes Malaysian frigate deal
Wed October 1, 2003 02:27 AM ET
LANGKAWI, Malaysia (Reuters) - British defence firm BAE Systems is working on a deal to supply several frigates to the Malaysian navy, a company spokesman has said.
"The navy has expressed a wish to expand its fleet, the government has expressed a wish to buy, and we are looking into what would best fit their needs," BAE spokesman Mark Ritson told Reuters on Wednesday.

BAE is among the 600 or so firms participating at an air and maritime show on the northern Malaysian island of Langkawi.

Ritson said Malaysia had not decided on the number of vessels to buy, and BAE BA.L was waiting for the navy to issue its specifications before submitting a proposal.

"At this moment, there is no indication of when the specifications will be out," he said.

BAE, the largest military contractor to the British government, built two made-to-order Jebat-class frigates for Malaysia in 1999.

Separately, Ritson said BAE had on Tuesday signed a memorandum of understanding with small Malaysian aircraft maintenance firm Airod to "explore the possibility of forming a partnership".

He denied a media report saying the British firm would buy 30 percent of Airod.

"Absolutely not true. The ideal scenario could include an equity stake but currently, both parties have not even decided on what sort of amount that stake could be," Ritson said.

Airod General Manager Mohamad Fawaid Daud told Reuters the partnership would allow the Malaysian firm, in which the government owns a golden or veto share, to offer total maintenance support for the BAE Hawk MK 108/208, a training aircraft.

Airod currently does second-line and berth maintenance for the Hawk
 

Red aRRow

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wzhtg said:
Well, malaysia has already brought scorpene submarines and the 1 agosta submarine for training.
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Hmm thanks for posting the articles, The Agosta which malaysia has bought is an old Agosta 70 sub. The scorpenes are brand new and Malaysia has placed order for two uptil now. And anyway let us stop hijacking the thread. The subject was F-18 Hornets and NOT Agosta 90Bs!

I think it is clever on Malaysia's part to be buying planes from Russia as well as U.S. thus keeping both channels open and not concentrating on just one country. I have also heard Malaysia has already bought Pakistani made Baktar Shikan ATGMs.
 

wzhtg

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Thales for Su 30 MKM?

Thales likely to win Malaysia avionics deal for Russian fighters: official


07/10/2003 at 05:47:03



Date line: KUALA LUMPUR
French defence electronics group Thales is expected to supply the avionics worth some 500 million ringgit (132 million dollars) for the 18 Russian Sukhoi fighter jets Malaysia will acquire, a senior industry official said Tuesday.

"The Malaysian defence ministry has been discussing with Thales in the past few months and a decision will be made soon," the official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

The official, familiar with the talks, said the payment for the contract would include an offset programme but declined to elaborate.

"The negotiations are in the final stages and Thales may win the contract," he said.

The avionics deal covers the radar, navigational instruments and other related electronic systems in the cockpit area.

Malaysia has signed a 900-million-dollar deal with Russia for the supply the 18 fighter aircraft.

The Su-30MK combat aircratf, expected to be delivered from mid-2006, will be modified with "suitable weaponary" to meet Malaysia's requirements and has been renamed the Su-30MKM, with the M standing for Malaysis.

Earlier, Defence Minister Najib Razak said Malaysia would impose countertrade and offset obligations for all major purchases.

"This is intended to contribute to (Malaysia's) industrial enhancement," he told some 100 delegates from the US, France and Russia who are attending a two-day conference on countertrade and offset arrangements.
 

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That part of the world will go in arms-buying crave!!! Malaysia buying Fighter jets prompted Singapor to buy too along with other weapons and now Indonesia is thinking about buying some more subs as well... this will go on and countries will start buying more weapons in that region while in this (west) region big defence companies suck up all the profits. ;) Cool ain't it? Good for the economy atleast. :alian2
 

wzhtg

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Congress approves sale
Fauziah Ismail

LANGKAWI, Oct 2: THE US Congress has given the nod for the sale of the F/A-18 Super
Hornet as well as its associated equipment and services to the Malaysia.

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Anthony M. Parasida, Boeing's president of the F/A-18 Programme, said the company was now waiting for Malaysia's decision as "we have gone beyond the negotiation stage".

"The US Congress approval is a stepping stone," he said.

The Defence Security Co-operation Agency had on Sept 4 notified the US Congress of a proposed sale to Malaysia of F/A-18F aircraft and associated equipment and services.

The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as US$1.5 billion (RM5.7 billion).

Malaysia had requested for 18 F/A18F aircraft with 36 F414-GE-400 aircraft engines, 18 AN/APG-73 radar systems, three spare F414-GE-400 aircraft engines, 18 AN/ALR-67(V)3 countermeasure receiving sets, 18 AN/ALE-47(B)2 countermeasure dispensing sets, 12 AN/ALQ-214(V)2 integrated defensive electronic countermeasures, 72 LAU-127B/A guided missile launchers, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, supply support, US government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, publications/-technical data, personnel training and training equipment, system software development and other related elements of logistics to ensure complete programme support.

Parasida, who had spent the last three years on the programme, acknowledged the difficulty in securing such a contract.

"It is hard to make a sale because we are talking about a lot of money. Everything has to fall in place ... it has to be the right airplane, the political situation has to be good.

"I know we have the right airplane, good financial package and also a good offset programme." The Boeing Company is offering Malaysia an offset programme which has been tailored along the Eighth Malaysia Plan in its proposal for the sale of a squadron of Super Hornet fighter attack aircraft.

The biggest US defence contractor is offering, among others, the opportunity for industrial collaboration between Malaysian industries and Boeing and other US entities in parts, collaboration, software development and biotechnology.

Parasida said drawing up the offset programme along the Eighth Malaysia Plan made sense as Boeing saw the country's development plan as a chart for the country's future.

He stressed that there were immense opportunities for Malaysian industries especially since the Super Hornets were very advanced aircraft.

"When you buy a new airplane, you buy the technology that comes with it. If we sell enough F-18s here, there will be opportunities for parts fabrication in Malaysia and the creation of new high technology jobs for Malaysia.

"And we are not only interested in building parts for the Malaysian aircraft but also for all the F-18s for the US Navy," he said.

Parasida said the Multimedia Super Corridor also offered tie-ups between Malaysian and US companies in software development and with American universities in biotechnology.

The Defence Security Co-operation Agency said the sale would require approximately eight contractor representatives to provide technical and logistics support in Malaysia for two years.

The principal contractors will be the Boeing Company in St Louis, Missouri; North Grumman in El Segundo, California; General Electric of Lynn, Massachusetts; and, Raytheon Company of El Segundo, California.


Boeing is also said to have offered the super hornet with the new Aesa system to MY
 

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Deal for avionics signedLeslie Andres

Malaysia took another step towards taking delivery of 18 new Russian jet aircraft for the Royal Malaysian Air Force with the signing of an agreement for the supply of avionics for the aircraft today. The agreement, worth 118.5 million Euros (about RM533.25 million), is for the bulk of Government-Furnished Equipment (GFE) for integration into the Sukhoi SU-30MKM procured for the RMAF last May.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, who witnessed the signing ceremony between the Government and Thales Optronique of France at his ministry in Jalan Padang Tembak, said six other foreign companies had been shortlisted to supply GFEs for the project.

He did not name the six companies.

The GFEs are to be purchased by the Malaysian Government to be integrated into the aircraft at a plant in Moscow. "The search for companies to supply GFEs was done by the RMAF and the government with the help of Rosoboronexport (Russian state corporation which handles export of military products) so there should not be any problems with the integration," said Najib.

He said a transfer of technology between Thales Optronique and local aviation companies represents 30 per cent of the deal.

The transfer of technology will see Thales Optronique work with the local defence industry companies to set up a centre for the maintenance and repair of avionics, involve the local defence companies in the integration of avionics into the aircraft, license local companies to repair avionics and provide them with accreditation for this purpose.

The contract was signed by Defence Ministry secretary-general Datuk Subhan Jasmon and deputy undersecretary-general for the document division Ismail Ibrahim, representing the Government, while Thales Optronique chairman and chief executive officer and chairman Christian Breyton and its project manager Eric Scognamiglio signed on behalf of the French company.

The avionics will be delivered in stages beginning August next year till 2006.

Najib said seven RMAF officers — two pilots, three engineers and two logisticians — will be sent to Moscow to monitor and co-ordinate the Su30MKM project so as to ensure that the Government would receive what they required in the aircraft.

"The officers will be there 54 months, so they will also be taking their families along," he said.

The group, to be led by the RMAF's SU-30MKM project team manager Kol Syed Salim Syed Abu Bakar, is expected to leave for Moscow at the end of March next year.
Asked to comment on a report from India claiming that the Indian Air Force's SU-30MKI aircraft had defective engines, Najib said that this was proven to be untrue.

"This has been verified by our air force. The Sukhoi has been flying in so many air shows and many of the state-of-the-art fighters have been sold around the world."
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gf0012-aust

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shamayel said:
Who the hell gives a crap about Australia?? :mad
If Malaysia wants the sub then Pakistan should supply. Period!!! :smokingc:
This is a general comment, it's not targeted at Shamayel or any other individual.

Seeing that Malaysia is an ally of Australia under the 5 powers agreement, I'm not sure why Malaysia would even see Australia as a threat. After all, we've had Australians die defending the Malays from the communists under Konfrontassi.

Don't confuse political differences between politicians as representing the nation.

At a military level we would still defend Malaysia if and when required, or if requested. Our word is our bond.

These kinds of comments about a nationality always get me :mad especially when I know of Australians who fought in Malaysia and Brunei to help, when those governments asked for our assistance - or do people here have short memories of our friendships in the past?

Treat any nation as an enemy and it will become a self fulfilling prophesy in the end. Australia has never had any hostile intent to its neighbours, and in case people don't realise it, we have provided military expertise, hardware (indonesia, singapore, malaysia, brunei, thailand, pakistan) and paid in blood to helping some of our neighbours.

The comment made by our Prime Minister lacked sensitivity, was inappropriate and intemperate. BUT Australia will always vigorously defend and protect our neighbours if asked. Before making comments like these in future it would pay to remember that Australians have died protecting some of your countrymen at your Governments request.

/anger off
 

Awang se

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The Super Hornet possibly come with the AMRAAM. That is the plus side for singapore because they can bring in their offshore stored AMRAAMs.
 

Awang se

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To gf0012

Your PM comment is raising some hair over this side. It's alarming and provocative. we do take some action following his statement but it's just a precaution, nothing more. we still maintain the alliance though. The current invasion of Iraq cause a rattle in the cage. We loose some of our confidence with the alliance. but we are not looking forward for any confrontations, politically or militarily. But it just cause us to increase our indepedency, just in case....
Don't be alarm though. u have nothing to worry from us until u threatened us first.
 

gf0012-aust

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Awang se said:
To gf0012

Your PM comment is raising some hair over this side. It's alarming and provocative. we do take some action following his statement but it's just a precaution, nothing more. we still maintain the alliance though. The current invasion of Iraq cause a rattle in the cage. We loose some of our confidence with the alliance. but we are not looking forward for any confrontations, politically or militarily. But it just cause us to increase our indepedency, just in case....
Don't be alarm though. u have nothing to worry from us until u threatened us first.
Awange se, but, we haven't threatened anyone in the region. The Prime Minister made a stupid comment (and most people I know of in military circles think that it was an idiotic thing to say)

But don't blame australians for a comment made by a prime minister that was unfounded and certainly not literal. even the press in australia was horrified at the words used.
 

Awang se

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We certainly do not blame Australia for the miscomment, not a bit. but history show what a one man with power can do. take hitler for example. anyway, we still allies nonetheless. The recent FPDA exercise show that. Sorry for the rather harsh word from my side of the line, but a word from a head of the government is not something we can dismissed just like that. it will have some effect to a certain extent. but, we would like to thanks the Australian people for not going along with Howard's enthusiasm.

now lets get back to the topic at hand.
Malaysia shud be goin 4 Russian eq cuz its a lot cheaper and equally efficient.
I personally believed that the US put some kind of diplomatic pressure to M'sia to purchase their equipments. As u know Malaysia is a traditional buyer for western made equipment, especialy the US made one. The purchase of Migs by Malaysia is rather an unexpected turn of event. The US face with the posibilities that they might loose their position as a major supplier of defence equipment for this country. But this is just my own insight about the purchase of The Super Hornets.

There is also a rumour of the possibilities that the M'sia Government will purchase additional SU-3x to complete at least two dedicated MRCA Squadrons. The current Mig-29 is due for upgrade to SM version. That means new radar, extended range, additional hardpoints and an all new glass cockpits.
 

corsair7772

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Sounds like the UAE guyz. They have F-16Is and M-2000-9s plus choppers and PGMS. What else cud a guy ask 4?
 
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