the introduction of chinese AEGIS

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badguy2000

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chinese official media declares now that they has accompilshed a stopping- missle mission wiith a new kind of warship-based antiair missile.in my opinon,it must be a mission of 'chinese AEGIS".
well a AEGIS mainly consist on 3 key sub-system:VLS(vertical launching system),PA radar and integrated system of CISR.
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/head/83/20060324/13192267_1.html
1,VLS
well,as i refered,only USA,russia,and France ,now China as latecomer really grasp the tech of VLS by themselves.
Britan,Japanese,Korean VLS is inducted as a total sub-system for their warship from USA.
European countries except France induct VLS mainly from France,inculding spain,Dutchland,and Germany.
some new warship of indian have VLS imported from Russia maybe,but Danush obviously doesn't belongs to VLS.
well,technically,VLS can be divided mainly to two kind:American "hot launching VLlS" and Russian"cold launching VLS".both have their own advantages and flaws,so you can't easily conclude which is more better or more advanced.
French VLS "Aster" belong to "hot launching VLS " and is more similar with American's.
Chinese is latecomer of VLS.China first self-made VLS is fixed on DDG 170&171 "Lanzhou" .But the VLS fixed on Chinese DDG 115$116 ,as sub-systems,are in fact imported from Russia .
Chinese VLS fixed on DDG 170 &171 technically belong to "cold launching".but every Chinese VLS hase 6 lauching-tubes and can launch all missile at same time while Russian one has only one launching-tube and have to launch in turns like "fiveshooter" ,which obviously improve reliability & speed of VLS.so,Chinese VLS on DDG 171 is more advanced than russian one.

however,one picture of Experiment-ship 970 of Chinese navy revealed that in fact Chinese have been developing "cold launching VLS" and "Hot launching VLS" at same time before 170 started to be constructed..but the DDG 170 show that Chinese navy finally select "Cold launching VLS" for some reason.
here is photo of experimental ship 970 of PLAN serveral years ago,you can see both round " cold VLS' and foursquare "hot VLS" for experiment on its board.i


2 PA RADAR
'phased -array radar" is divided into two kinds:Active Phased-Array Radar(APAR) and "Passive Phased-array radar"(PPAR).
SPY,the radar of "AEGIS" is PPAR;the radar of chinese new AWACS,kj2000,is APAR.
APAR is the most advanced radar now.it is much more advanced than PPAR, but also much more expensive and unmature than APAR.in fact ,APAR for fighter is so so unmuture that it is just a experimental tech.
that is why no new aircraft ,from refale,ef2000 to f22 except su 30 mki, is applied with APAR.
american's APAR is most advanced in the wolrd.other countries ,including russian,frenchman,britishman,chinese,japanese is all square.russia has is no ahead of chinese in the field.
BTW,chinese new AWACS,KJ2000, adopted APAR earliest in the world.
PPAR in chinese 171 DDG


APAR in chinese AWACS ,KJ2000
 

rickusn

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This response was posted on another board in regards to the above:

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...in fact ,APAR for fighter is so so unmuture that it is just a experimental tech.

...that is why no new aircraft ,from refale,ef2000 to f22 except su 30 mki, is applied with APAR.


Rubbish.... APG-63(V)2 and APG-63(V)3 are fighter APAR (AESA) radars (F-15), as well as APG-79 (F-18E/F), APG-80 (F-16 b.60), APG-77 and APG-77 (V)1 (F-22), and APG-81 (F-35).

SU-30mki uses PPAR (PESA)
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Originally Posted by badguy2000
BTW,chinese new AWACS,KJ2000, adopted APAR earliest in the world.

Wrong again. Phalcon, Eyrie, Wedgetail are all APAR (AESA) AWE&C platforms.

*yawn*...more PRC propaganda...
 

tphuang

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rickusn said:
This response was posted on another board in regards to the above:

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Originally Posted by badguy2000
...in fact ,APAR for fighter is so so unmuture that it is just a experimental tech.

...that is why no new aircraft ,from refale,ef2000 to f22 except su 30 mki, is applied with APAR.


Rubbish.... APG-63(V)2 and APG-63(V)3 are fighter APAR (AESA) radars (F-15), as well as APG-79 (F-18E/F), APG-80 (F-16 b.60), APG-77 and APG-77 (V)1 (F-22), and APG-81 (F-35).

SU-30mki uses PPAR (PESA)
Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy2000
BTW,chinese new AWACS,KJ2000, adopted APAR earliest in the world.

Wrong again. Phalcon, Eyrie, Wedgetail are all APAR (AESA) AWE&C platforms.

*yawn*...more PRC propaganda...
It's not PRC propoganda, it's just his own bs. Seriously, this guy went on WAB and started 2 threads on different forums calling the L-15 trainer a stealth fighter. The entire Aegis stuff is made up by Kanwa and some China threat people. I suggest we ban this guy.
 

gf0012-aust

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Thread closed pending Webs decision on whether poster is to be banned.
 
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