10 Countries Show Interest in Brahmos Missile

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Snauman

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(Source: Times of India News network; issued Dec. 14, 2004)

Times of India News Network


PUNE, India --- As many as 10 countries have shown interest in Brahmos — the new generation supersonic cruise missile — jointly developed by India and Russia, and have made enquiries about the possibility of acquiring them, a senior official from the defence research and development organisation (DRDO) said, adding that at least three "trusted nations" have been short-listed by both the countries.

When contacted, A Sivathanu Pillai, the CEO and managing director of Brahmos Aerospace — the Indo-Russian joint venture company — besides being the chief controller (research and development) of Defence and Research Organisation (DRDO), only said the export of Brahmos will be strictly restricted to friendly third-world countries.

"We have received enquiries from some countries, but it won't be proper to disclose any names at this stage," he said, adding that both the governments would take a necessary decision as deemed fit.

While pointing out that the 290 km-range cruise missile — that can be launched from a variety of land, sea, sub-sea or air-based platforms — is already proving to be hit amongst many nations, senior DRDO officials said a decision to import will be taken only after seriously considering the security aspects of both nations.

"Both the Russian and Indian governments have decided that only those countries which can be trusted buy both sides will be considered for importing the missile," a scientist working at one of the DRDO labs said.

It may be recalled here that DRDO had recently test-fired the naval version of Brahmos, while efforts are now on to develop a similar version, capable of being launched from an aircraft.

While Brahmos Aerospace already has a tie-up with Russia's Rosoboronexport State Corporation to globally market Brahmos for both naval and air platforms, officials said a plan on joint export promotion of Brahmos has already been prepared and submitted to both the governments for approval.

The plan was prepared by Pillai and Andrey Beliyaninov, the director-general of Rosoboronexport, besides another senior member," a DRDO official said, adding that the matter was also discussed during Russian president Vladimir Putin's recent visit to India, and has also been given the go-ahead.

The plan envisages undertaking joint marketing activities, aimed at promotion of Brahmos to foreign countries.


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Snauman

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A joint venture was born to assemble the missile jointly in India and that project has now begun to pay off.

The BrahMos has a range of 290 km just below the MCTR range limit of 300 km. It flies to an altitude of 14 km post launch before travelling at Mach 2 plus supersonic speed to cover the distance.
It then dives to sea level, skims the sea to avoid detection at supersonic speed and seeks the target with its seekers. Its mission computer exchanges data between the inertial and GPS navigation feeds. It has a reported 300 kg warhead, which makes it a potent weapon.


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XEROX

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Apparantly Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam are intrested in the purchase - as "friendly countries", i thought Malaysia was closer to pakistan
:)
 

srirangan

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Sell it to Vietnam. Refuse Malaysia (not because of their closeness to Pak, but because of their enemity with our ally Thailand), and consult Australia about sales to Indonesia.
 

XEROX

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I wouldnt sell to Malaysia or Indonesia, as to the reasons Sri has given, but i wonder who the other 7 nations are
 

srirangan

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PJ-10 Brahmos,
I suspect it could be some Central Asian/Eastern European countries, maybe some gulf nations and ofcourse Iran. :p
 

srirangan

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Yep, exactly; Indian stance would the be exact same. But still I am really confident that Iran would have atleast asked for these missiles/
 

omegasigma

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srirangan said:
Sell it to Vietnam. Refuse Malaysia (not because of their closeness to Pak, but because of their enemity with our ally Thailand), and consult Australia about sales to Indonesia.
I agree. Here are some more notable information about the BrahMos missile system:

1. The missile system is 90% Russian including the propulsion system and the launch systems. 10% of the components including the inertial navigation system and guidance software are Indian.
2. The launch platform stabilizer for mobile lauching and sea-platform launching are major Indian contributions.
3. Russia and India jointly financed the company practically run by MBAs. The MBAs are making sure of the ROI from technology investments including R&D.
4. Russia's part of the financing is from the oustanding payment India owes Russia on weapon systems sales.

So any decisions on sales have to go through both Russia and India bureucracies. Also it has to comply with the Intellectual Property law signed between Russia and India during Putin's recent visit to India.
 

XEROX

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Im sure that the computer and the guidance system designed by India is more then 10%


In other news

BrahMos land version tested

NEW DELHI, DECEMBER 21: Boosting its missile technology capabilities, India today successfully testfired the supersonic cruise land-to-land BrahMos missile in the Pokharan test ranges in Rajasthan. It becomes the only country outside the US and Russia to acquire the capability.

The test firing of the missile with a range of 290 km was conducted at 12.30 pm in the presence of Chief of Army Staff (designate) Lt Gen J J Singh and other top officials of the armed forces.

The testing of the missile in its land configuration comes after successful tests of the missile’s ship-to-ship and ship-to-land versions.

A Pune-based firm has developed a mobile land-launcher platform to carry the BrahMos missile in its land configuration.

Describing today’s test, a Defence ministry spokesman said: ‘‘The mission team chose one from among a group of identified built-up targets and the missile came dead on the target, destroying it.’’

Last month, Navy chief Admiral Arun Prakash said, ‘‘The BrahMos technology is mature. We are at the last stage of proving its capabilities. We will retrofit it on all Navy ships that can carry the missile.’’

Earlier this month, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov, who also visited the development site in Bangalore, announced that both India and Russia would be raising their investments in the project.

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This is a massive force multiplier, next could be the smaller lighter version of the BrahMos for the Su-30s , then it surly must be the submarine launched version of the missile, btw does India posses a sub that could handle it, all i know is that the Akula can, which we dont have, yet!!
 

omegasigma

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Im sure that the computer and the guidance system designed by India is more then 10%
The biggest component of this missile system is the supersonic propulsion system. Definetly the guidnace is a big contribution from India.
 

gf0012-aust

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omegasigma said:
Im sure that the computer and the guidance system designed by India is more then 10%
The biggest component of this missile system is the supersonic propulsion system. Definetly the guidnace is a big contribution from India.
The Guidance system would have been a significant level of effort. If you consider the fact that Yakhont/P-800 (Brahmos legacy platform) was part of the Glonass system which Russia did not allow India access to (it was at that stage exclusively a Russian milsat network). So India had to create a new guidance solution that was divorced from Russian guidance opportunities.

What is interesting now is that this has come full circle and Brahmos may return to it's original "Yakhont" form and use the Glonass system. If it is to be a true all weather blue water system, then it will need a system like Glonass for guidance enhancement (which is why I assume that the Glonass co-development contract has been established.)

It's a 2 way win, Russia ends up with an enhanced Glonass milsat grid, and India now ends up with a full "allweather" guided capability suitable for a blue water navy. IIRC China has yet to achieve a full 30 unit milsat grid.
 

Pathfinder-X

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Yes it may be a win-win situation, but India would have to depend on the Glonass for guidance of Brahmos. No a single nation will like having dependency on a foreign system. I thin India has plans to develop her own guidance sat system. It can be seen in the recent participation in the Galileo project.
 

gf0012-aust

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Pathfinder-X said:
Yes it may be a win-win situation, but India would have to depend on the Glonass for guidance of Brahmos. No a single nation will like having dependency on a foreign system. I thin India has plans to develop her own guidance sat system. It can be seen in the recent participation in the Galileo project.
I think Glonass is being seen as the companion guidance system - not a replacement for existing guidance. ipso facto Brahmos will be provided with a degree of redundancy.
 

arjun

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what is garentuee that if india will sel or russia will sel it to other country and they will not give it to other country to make copy all world is very active in that and i think every military project of world is depend on other countrys invention example is in front on world basic thing like Ak-47 so it is not right if any country of world say it is just their own project it can be their countrys project but based on past invention of any country
 

VICTORA1

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Sri,

What is wrong brother! We can be trusted wholeheartedly, Give us some. Please have confidence in us, we are your neighbours. Show some love, give us some Brahmos. How can we build trust if you don't give us the missiles.:duel
 

insas556

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VICTORA1 said:
Sri,

What is wrong brother! We can be trusted wholeheartedly, Give us some. Please have confidence in us, we are your neighbours. Show some love, give us some Brahmos. How can we build trust if you don't give us the missiles.:duel
In case ''we'' is a particular neighbour, it would be good of ''we'' not to ask, because in case the Brahmos goes to the particular neighbour, i doubt if it would be with the best of intentions.
 

ajay_ijn

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Air Force version of Brahmos missile soon
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=1274

The country is planning to make an Air Force version of the supersonic Brahmos cruise missile to suit Sukhoi MKI platform, an official said in Bangalore on the sidelines of the ongoing Aero show.


The Brahmos missile has identical configuration for land, sea and sub sea platforms. The air-launched version will have a smaller booster and additional tail fins for stability during launch.

"This involves design adaptable to Sukhoi-30 aircraft and then development effort because we have to take into account the speed of the mother aircraft and also the weight carrying capability of the aircrafts. This calls for some design improvements, which have to be carried on, and then we have to carry a mock up flight trial from another flying platform before we induct in the system. This is going to take considerable time and effort. We expect in two-three years' time we should be available to make the first flight trial," the Chief executive officer and Managing Director of Brahmos A. Sivathanu Pillai said in an interview with ANI.

Pillai further said that there was a plan to produce about 100 missiles every year, which would be compatible to many platforms.

Brahmos, named after India's Brahmaputra River and Russia's Moscow River, is primarily an anti-ship missile but can be used against land targets as well. It can be launched from land, sea and air. Jointly developed with Russia, the missile has a range of 290 km and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg. (ANI)
The media says soon but the Head of Brahmos project says it would take 3 years.
The Airforce version will be of 1.5 tons but of same range.
Our Admiral is very eager to have formal Induction ceremony of Su-30MKI into navy.
Already Some Sukhois have been readied for Maritime Strike Role.

Is there any chance of this Missile can be modified to be Air-launched Land Attack Role.

IAF Doesn't give much importance to Air-Surface Land Attack or Standoff Missiles??Why is that.
 

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