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Old February 3rd, 2017   #76
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This is the White House which criticises the press for not reporting an imaginary massacre, for truthfully reporting the relative sizes of crowds at different US presidential inaugurations, etc. What do you expect? It's an alternative fact.
I find it all pretty disturbing as an Aussie. Right at a time where our strategic situation is shifting under our feet we have this kind of nonsense going on. If anything we need a level headed and engaged USA in our region, not WWE inspired political theatre. It's going to be an interesting (or maybe just depressing?) 4-8yrs for the ANZUS alliance methinks.
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It's why so many of the Nordik countries with the extremely high taxes are soo bad with all there good road's, education and health.. Who needs that -_-
Good roads, I take it you've never been to Norway, Sweden and Denmark have good roads, Norway doesn't, the decades worth of underinvestment in Norway's roading and transport infrastructure is a national shame!
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Good roads, I take it you've never been to Norway, Sweden and Denmark have good roads, Norway doesn't, the decades worth of underinvestment in Norway's roading and transport infrastructure is a national shame!
Do you come back home often? Roads here are not the best either. Again infrastructure underinvestment over time.
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Do you come back home often? Roads here are not the best either. Again infrastructure underinvestment over time.
I do, every two years, the main things I noticed when I moved to Norway were the shitty food, poor roads and shockingly bad infrastructure. The week after I arrived they closed down a dozen schools due to legionaries disease.
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The interesting part of all of this is that a large element of the US population sees nothing amiss. Depending on how things go, this may continue for a long time. Where it ends is anyone's guess. I suspect in a disaster, but we'll see.

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Not the kind of person you want wielding all that power. No doubt other countries will learn from the Mexico and Australia dramas and realize that they can either appease or push back. I suspect their constituencies will prefer the latter.


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The interesting part of all of this is that a large element of the US population sees nothing amiss. Depending on how things go, this may continue for a long time. Where it ends is anyone's guess. I suspect in a disaster, but we'll see.

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It really is quite bizarre (and disturbing) looking from the outside in. Perhaps it is also a case of the stars aligning/"right place right time" as there seems to be a wave of anti-globalisation/nationalist sentiment sweeping much of the west at the moment. It also seems like the war weariness of a decade or more ago has given way to frustration/insecurity at the lack of a decisive response to (and control over?) the spate of terror attacks that have occurred since (ISIS et al). Perhaps the perfect storm needed for a Govt like this?

Horrible timing geopolitically though - the west surely needs a calm and steady hand at the helm in places like the West Pacific, ME and the Baltics...

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The interesting part of all of this is that a large element of the US population sees nothing amiss. Depending on how things go, this may continue for a long time. Where it ends is anyone's guess. I suspect in a disaster, but we'll see.

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He appeals to the lizard in them I guess. Will they turn against him if the economy tanks or some other disaster of his making befalls them? One would like to think so but reasoned thinking seems to be in short supply nowadays.

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If it wasn't so serious you would laugh at the antics and the alternate facts going thru the white house

Five Australian 'terrorism acts' on White House list 'ignored by media' - 9news.com.au

It's looking like a version of the comedy company.
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If it wasn't so serious you would laugh at the antics and the alternate facts going thru the white house

Five Australian 'terrorism acts' on White House list 'ignored by media' - 9news.com.au

It's looking like a version of the comedy company.
well, I woke up this morning to find out that Australia had become a Republic (President Trunble)

then I discovered that MH17 had no Russian involvement and was fake news (George Christensen)

and now this....

I must be in a temporal flux

maybe Trump should spend more time watching international news feeds instead of wearing his fingers to a stub on Twitter.
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well, I woke up this morning to find out that Australia had become a Republic (President Trunble)

then I discovered that MH17 had no Russian involvement and was fake news (George Christensen)

and now this....

I must be in a temporal flux

maybe Trump should spend more time watching international news feeds instead of wearing his fingers to a stub on Twitter.

It defies belief, how can any goverment across the globe take this administration serious, I don't think he has to weary about isolationist policy, he just has to keep going and nobody will want to deal with them.

At first I bought it was all an act for the electorate, but have come to the conclusion that's the real him
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It defies belief, how can any goverment across the globe take this administration serious, I don't think he has to weary about isolationist policy, he just has to keep going and nobody will want to deal with them.

At first I bought it was all an act for the electorate, but have come to the conclusion that's the real him
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It's looking like a version of the comedy company.
For Germany the list isn't that different from Australia.

Simply list all known terrorist attacks in the country committed by people with muslim background and resulting in injured or dead (conveniently omitting any such attacks done by others, which cuts down up to several dozen incidents of similar scale since 2014 to... four).
Also, for flavour, add some random murder "by an unknown attacker" that's probably in there because ISIL claimed responsibility (... two weeks later, citing a wrong number of victims (!) among other things).

There's one attack in the list for Germany though (the bombing of a Sikh temple) that is generally considered under-reported - in German media - and even had media reporting about the under-reporting. That incident pretty much wasn't reported at all in mainstream media in the US outside a Reuters article and some op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. Breitbart carried it pretty widely, along with other alt-right media, hence why it's probably on the list.
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Gents, the sky is not falling in the US.

The electorate was faced with two slim choices in many Americans opinions. A life long Bureaucratic insider with self serving desires, or a complete outsider who seemed like a clown at times. Neither of which was overly appealing but after 8 years of Obama that very electorate chose against the life long politician. (Remember the negative Press is nearly overwhelming here since the media lost its Queen in the last election)

Trump clearly made a mistake with Turnbull. He should have a clear view of the deep history of the special Bilateral relationship Australia and the US have shared for over a century. Both are Free nations sharing common culture and much more.

We're two weeks in, again the sky is not falling. The US SecDef has traveled to reassure allies in the Pacific the US is with them and they no longer stand on thin ice ( my opinion on how Obama treated many allies) Mattis has made the point many times our Allies should rest easier in the face of aggression and our enemies should no longer feel safe to do as they please without and checks.
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