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Old August 8th, 2010   #31
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Entering Digital Era in Field Communication

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Jakarta, DMC - Ministry of Defence (Kemhan) through the Directorate General of Defense Facility (DG Ranahan) Kemhan PLT represented by Director General Armed Forces Ranahan Laksma Susilo made the symbolic delivery of Digital Radio Trunking System from EADS Tetra Kemhan to the Army Headquarters as the users, Wednesday (4 / 8), in the building Ranahan Kemhan DG, Jakarta. In the handover ceremony and the signing of the settlement agreement, the parties represented by Waas TNI TNI Commander Brigadier General Komlek Supriyadi and the French EADS (European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company) represented by the Head of the Representative Laurent Godin.

In his speech, Director General DG Ranahan expressed his expectation that Digital Radio Trunking System can be useful to enhance the operational readiness of the capital garrison security systems as well as to support the activities and operational tasks other TNI Headquarters.

On behalf of the Ministry, DG Ranahan expressed his gratitude and high appreciation to the parties who have provided support, assistance and recommendations in the implementation of the installation, training, commissioning, and test the functionality of the Digital Radio Trunking System EADS Tetra.

On the same occasion Waas Komlek when reading the mandate of the Armed Forces Commander Askomlek Army Commander said that the implementation of development for Tetra Digital EADS is supported by modern equipment that is placed at five locations, has been functioning properly and ready for use by the military operations, especially Kodam Jaya and their staffs in order to supports securing the capital Jakarta.

One thing that deserves attention is the low readiness and mastery of operational procedures of EADS Tetra by existing Human Resources (HR) who will be manning the equipment. Given the relatively sophisticated equipment in pengoperasionalannya, as well as the overall complexity of existing features in it, it is expected to restructure the plan by the party against operators Satkomlek EADS TNI, Hubdam Jaya, Hubrem and Kodim about using a data communication system can be implemented as soon as possible. So the use of trunking equipment EADS and Network Management System by Kodam Jaya and its staff can be optimized.

About Tetra Technology Overview

Tetra digital communications system is one application on Tetra Digital Communications System which is the most modern digital communication technologies today that will be used by the military. AApplication Monitoring Movement of troops using the GPS feature that existed at both terminals Handled Tetra Radio and Mobile Radio.

This application is very helpful in the command control center (Command Control) to control the troops on the ground in situations riots or other disturbances. Every Radio Tetra is used by troops in the field has a unique identity (ID) which was then translated to the digital map is in command of the identity of a particular color according to its function in the field, for example: the color green for the army club, the color red for intruder and color agents purple for a sniper (sniper).

This application allows the field commander to localize the target area (the intruder agent), knows the position and knowing penindak unit troop movements (personal auto tracking).

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Well it's a beggining step to personalise Soldier equipment with Network Centric environment. It's late, but better then never.

BTW; for forum members that interested with development of JI (Jemaah Islamiyah) in Indonesia, there's new development: Abu Bakar Ba'asyir that many suspected (but can't have strong legal evidence up until know) as Spiritual Leader of JI has been arrested.
The arrest come after latest sting of uprooting JI cells in here, the Police found strong evidence that Ba'asyir was not only known but actively involved with new initiative of JI cell movements. Ba'asyir was in prison for 2 years (2005-2007) after Marioot bombing, but that charges only for protecting the suspect. No direct involvement so far has been found.
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From Rianovosti Russia delivers three Mi-35M helicopters to Indonesia | World | RIA Novosti

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Russia has delivered three Mi-35M Hind assault helicopters to Indonesia, a military source said on Thursday.

Russia signed an agreement with Indonesia in September 2007 to provide a $1 billion credit line to the Southeast Asian country for Russian weapons purchases. Indonesia planned to buy ten Mi-17 transport helicopters, five Mi-35Ms, six Sukhoi fighters and two Kilo-class submarines financed by the credit.

Jakarta became one of Russia's major arms customers in 1999 when the United States tightened an embargo on arms sales to the country over alleged human rights violations.

Washington has since lifted the ban, but Indonesia, the world's most populous Islamic country, continues to turn to Russia for its military hardware imports.

Moscow has already delivered three Su-27SKM fighters to Indonesia as the final part of an August 2007 $300 million deal for six of the Sukhoi fighters.

The agreement followed a 2003 deal on the purchase of four fighter jets by Indonesia from Russia.

The planes will take part in a military parade dedicated to Indonesian Armed Forces Day on October 5.

The Mi-35M is an export version of the Mi-24 Hind that was used extensively in Afghanistan. The Mi-24/35 can be used for transportation, assault and medical evacuation tasks.
Since the users for those MI-35 is the Army (TNI-AD), I put the news in the Army Thread.
Currently TNI-AD already have 2 MI-35 and 6 MI-17, with delivery of 3 MI-35, then TNI AD will wait for another 4 MI 17 to complete the contracts.

There's no news on additional credit line, however sources in here says that the 2007 contract for 6 Flankers that just being completed the delivery was not included in the USD 1 bio Credit line that Putin and SBY sign.

The bulk of USD 1 bio credit line supposed goes to USD 700 mio on Kilo subs, however indication in here seems shows that The Navy (TNI AL) will not get Kilo's but South Korean/German design (Changbogo/U 209), that will be constructed locally in Surabaya (PT. PAL). Thus the allocation for Subs in the contract can be use for alternative system.

Already some speculations said that the Additional 6 Flankers plus weapon will be negotiated with Russian to used the credit line that supposed goes to Kilo subs. Also potential the Air Force wants to regain Area SAM capabilities that lost when SA-2 was taken off from operational status in early 70's.

However the Army also want to used the credit line to get more MI-35 and MI-17. Well have to be seen. Personally with more MI-35 and MI-17 coming, the need for Air Force specialised COIN is diminishing. But hey what do I know
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From Rianovosti Russia delivers three Mi-35M helicopters to Indonesia | World | RIA Novosti



Since the users for those MI-35 is the Army (TNI-AD), I put the news in the Army Thread.
Currently TNI-AD already have 2 MI-35 and 6 MI-17, with delivery of 3 MI-35, then TNI AD will wait for another 4 MI 17 to complete the contracts.

There's no news on additional credit line, however sources in here says that the 2007 contract for 6 Flankers that just being completed the delivery was not included in the USD 1 bio Credit line that Putin and SBY sign.

The bulk of USD 1 bio credit line supposed goes to USD 700 mio on Kilo subs, however indication in here seems shows that The Navy (TNI AL) will not get Kilo's but South Korean/German design (Changbogo/U 209), that will be constructed locally in Surabaya (PT. PAL). Thus the allocation for Subs in the contract can be use for alternative system.

Already some speculations said that the Additional 6 Flankers plus weapon will be negotiated with Russian to used the credit line that supposed goes to Kilo subs. Also potential the Air Force wants to regain Area SAM capabilities that lost when SA-2 was taken off from operational status in early 70's.

However the Army also want to used the credit line to get more MI-35 and MI-17. Well have to be seen. Personally with more MI-35 and MI-17 coming, the need for Air Force specialised COIN is diminishing. But hey what do I know
Indeed, the 3 Su-27SKM and 3 Su-30MK2 were not part of the $1 M package.
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Russia delivers three Mi-35M helicopters to Indonesia

MOSCOW - Russia has delivered three Mi-35M Hind assault helicopters to Indonesia, a military source said on Thursday (23/9).

Russia signed an agreement with Indonesia in September 2007 to provide a $1 billion credit line to the Southeast Asian country for Russian weapons purchases. Indonesia planned to buy ten Mi-17 transport helicopters, five Mi-35Ms, six Sukhoi fighters and two Kilo-class submarines financed by the credit.

Jakarta became one of Russia's major arms customers in 1999 when the United States tightened an embargo on arms sales to the country over alleged human rights violations.

Washington has since lifted the ban, but Indonesia, the world's most populous Islamic country, continues to turn to Russia for its military hardware imports.

Moscow has already delivered three Su-27SKM fighters to Indonesia as the final part of an August 2007 $300 million deal for six of the Sukhoi fighters.

The agreement followed a 2003 deal on the purchase of four fighter jets by Indonesia from Russia.

The planes will take part in a military parade dedicated to Indonesian Armed Forces Day on October 5.

The Mi-35M is an export version of the Mi-24 Hind that was used extensively in Afghanistan. The Mi-24/35 can be used for transportation, assault and medical evacuation tasks.
According to Rianovosti the Mi-35Ps have already been delivered!?
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The Russians have assembled the three Mi-35Ps and they will hand them over to the Indonesian Army begin October.

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TNI AD Tambah 3 Helikopter Serbu Mi-35


SEMARANG - Pihak Rusia telah menyelesaikan tiga perakitan helikopter serbu Mi-35 yang rencana penyerahannya akan dilaksanakan pada awal Oktober ini.

Pesawat ini merupakan realisasi pembelian yang ditandatangani antara pemerintah RI dan Rusia pada September 2007 lewat kredit sebesar $ 1 milyar untuk pembelian senjata dari Rusia. Indonesia berencana menambah sejumlah heli AD sebanyak sepuluh Mi-17, lima Mi-35Ms.
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The Indonesian Army adds a third Mi-35 Attack Helicopter

Add a third Army Mi-35 Attack Helicopters SEMARANG - The Russians have completed assembly of three Mi-35 attack helicopters that the delivery plan will be implemented in early October.

These aircraft are a realization that the purchase was signed between the governments of Indonesia and Russia in September 2007 via a credit of $ 1 billion for arms purchases from Russia. Indonesia plans to increase the number of Army helicopters as many as ten Mi-17, five Mi-35Ms.
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Sucessful Trial of Domestic 122 mm

The Trial conducted succesfully on 6th of November. The aim for this 122 mm rocket is to become based for Domestic MLRS. Pindad build the Warhead, whille the rockets is the derivative from Lapan (National Aeronautical Agency) research rockets.

Well got another pictures from Sriwijaya Post, sorry rather low quality.
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Thanks for posting!
Remarkable, IPTN has developed the NDL-40, a 2,75" / 70 mm MLRS, but it looks like only a small amount are build, maybe because of the limited range....
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Remarkable, IPTN has developed the NDL-40, a 2,75" / 70 mm MLRS, but it looks like only a small amount are build, maybe because of the limited range....
Got this picture from alutsista-blogspot. Seems this's 70mm MLRS on a SUV Platform, being displayed to SBY in Indo-Defence. Also from alutsista-blogspot, several Anoa's Armoured Carriers variances including, APC, 90 mm canon, 120 mm Mortar carriers, Ambulances, and ARV.
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Just out of curiosity, what's it got that refurbished second hand Grads don't? I bet they would be a whole lot cheaper then developing your own. Not to mention, they have a proven track record.
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Just out of curiosity, what's it got that refurbished second hand Grads don't? I bet they would be a whole lot cheaper then developing your own. Not to mention, they have a proven track record.
Ahh...the 122mm rockets being developed according to Pindad sources on local media (sorry can't find on-line articles), is being design addaptable with existing Grads MLRS. This's matter on getting Domestic self suffcients on rockets.
Besides Pindad now trying to manufactured scaled down Grads that can be mounted on Anoa's.
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Jakarta has earmarked $65 million for new medium utility helicopters, but the Indonesian defence ministry has yet to receive the funds.

The army plans to use the money to buy a batch of six medium utility helicopters, according to an industry source speaking at the tri-service Indo Defence Expo & Forum in Jakarta. A second batch of eight aircraft would be purchased later.

Previous reports have suggested that Indonesia's total requirement could be for 24 new utility helicopters; enough to be divided into two squadrons.

The army has yet to select a type, but has said in the past that it wants a helicopter that can perform both utility and attack roles. However, the industry source says the first role has taken on a greater priority recently.

Several helicopter manufacturers were present at the Jakarta show, including AgustaWestland, Eurocopter and Indonesian Aerospace (IAe).

Possible contenders for the requirement include AgustaWestland's AW139, the Eurocopter-promoted NH Industries NH90, and the Bell 412EP, put forward by the US manufacturer and IAe.

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Considering current Poltical climates, I Think Bell 412 EP will win. The Army already have 2 sq of Bell 412, and it's manufactured locally with DI.

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Daewoo International to export military wheeled armored vehicles 6x6 to Indonesia Army worth of 70 million dollars.

Indonesian Defense Ministry and Daewoo International recently signed agreement and came into effect 11 days to start production this month.

Wheeled armored vehicles 6 x6 is the first time to export to overseas.

Daewoo equipped 22 units of armored with a 90mm turret, split 11 units completely knock down (CKD), and 11 unit in parts assembly (SKD), Indonesia announced that it will lead to the Army by end of 2013.

Production and 90mm armored turret assembly headed by the Doosan DST, SKD volume manufacturing technology transfer contract with the armored vehicles in Indonesia is planning to assemble in the arsenal.

Company officials said "military diplomacy in the DAPA and the competitive win financial support Korea Export-Import Bank for this project was a great help," he said.

Daewoo International in the past one year worth of $ 80 million from the Indonesia Navy type 209 submarines overhaul contracts, and amount to $ 40 million from the Indonesian Air Force basic trainer contracted.

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It's confirm where the Pindad 90 mm will be based on.
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Ahh...the 122mm rockets being developed according to Pindad sources on local media (sorry can't find on-line articles), is being design addaptable with existing Grads MLRS. This's matter on getting Domestic self suffcients on rockets.
Besides Pindad now trying to manufactured scaled down Grads that can be mounted on Anoa's.
So an attempt to create domestic defense industry?
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So an attempt to create domestic defense industry?
They have one already: the N in CN-235 standards for Indonesia (well an Indonesian company). The 70mm MRL provides a bombardment capability for special forces. It is mounted on a very small ATV compared to the Grad MRL mounted on a 3 tonne truck.
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They have one already: the N in CN-235 standards for Indonesia (well an Indonesian company). The 70mm MRL provides a bombardment capability for special forces. It is mounted on a very small ATV compared to the Grad MRL mounted on a 3 tonne truck.
Feanor, just like Abraham said, it's not an attempt to create domestic defense industry, but more to improved domestic defence industry.
With Pindad we actually already self sufficient on small calibre weapons even up to 81 mm mortar. Now Pindad wants to developed larger calibre including 105 mm (with Oto Mellara) and this 122 mm rockets.

Previously (in former adminstrations), there's some buying on small calibre weapons by Police and Special Forces, but lately current administrations already stated that anything simmilar that already produced locally is 'forbidden' to sources it internationally.
Also any new procurements has to involved tot or other sub contracts to local industry.
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The 70mm MRL provides a bombardment capability for special forces. It is mounted on a very small ATV compared to the Grad MRL mounted on a 3 tonne truck.
This answers my original question. Thank you.
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The 70 mm based on US FFAR (folding Fin rockets) while the 122 mm based on Lapan's experimental D-230. However if you see the picture, it has many resemblences to Grads standard.
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