India's MBT: Arjun and its standing among Tanks

Wil the Arjun be better than the T-90?


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dabrownguy

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Or will it actually be inducted into the Indian Army? I want to hear your opinons since i can't seem to find anything useful on the tank.
This is the information that I think isn't biased but it could be...
Arjun
At the end of the 1971 war, the Indian army realized the limitations of their tank fleet in the harsh desert conditions of Rajasthan, a northwestern Indian state bordering Pakistan, so they initiated their own MBT design. The Main Battle Tank (MBT) occupies a pivotal role in the present day battle field on account of its ability to provide accurate fire power with cross country mobility, reasonable protection from conventional and nuclear threats and flexible response to changing battle situations.

In order to eliminate dependence on foreign countries for design and manufacture of Armoured Fighting Vehicles (AFV) and to place the country on par with super powers with regard to quality of tanks and also to eliminate completely the requirement of foreign exchange (FE) in the production of tanks, Government in May 1974 sanctioned a project for design and development of MBT by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) at a total cost of Rs 15.50 crore (FE Rs 3.70 crore). The tanks were to be in service during 1985 to 2000 AD and were in replacement of existing tanks which were expected to be out-dated beyond 1985.

The first “Arjun†(named after a mythical Hindu warrior prince) concept was laid out in 1974 by the Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (CVRDE) of the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Based on 1971 battlefield experiences, the Arjun would have a locally-designed, rifled 120mm main gun, a German, MTU-based diesel powerplant (The Indians consider turbine engines fuel guzzlers), and a computerized fire control system with a laser rangefinder.

The Main Battle Tank Project sanctioned in May 1974 envisaged bulk production by April 1984. However this time frame was not adhered to and was revised from time to time and bulk production was to commence from 1990 onwards but even the revised time frame could not be adhered to. As per time frame fixed in May 1974, four mild steel prototypes were to be offered for trials by April 1980 and eight armoured prototypes by April 1982. Trickle production was due to commence by April 1983 and bulk production by April 1984. This schedule was revised from time to time.

One of the early Arjun prototypes was unveiled in April 1985, with a number of prototypes undergoing technical testing while desert trials were scheduled for that summer. At the time, it was reported to have a 120mm smooth-bore main gun and would use a 1400-hp MTU-based diesel until an indigenous one was ready. Weight would be about 50 tons, and the tank would cost about $1.6 million (U.S.). Development costs rose about 500 percent throughout the ’80s, and through a development process plagued with delays, the end product visually resembles the German Leopard II, however, unlike the German vehicle, its future remains in doubt.

A total of 12 MK-I prototypes based on imported propulsion unit, seven MK-II prototypes with indigenous propulsion were to be delivered by June 1987 and June 1990 respectively; 23 MK-I, PPS tanks by December 1988 and bulk production was to commence from 1990 onwards. As against this, 12 MK-I prototypes with imported propulsion were produced by February 1989 and 15 MK-I PPS tanks upto December 1996. MK-II type prototype were not expected to be ready in the near future on account of the delays in the development of the indigenous engine.

The automotive trials of two prototypes carried out by Army during 1988-89 revealed major deficiencies. The Army, therefore, on 26 July 1989 wanted these deficiencies to be sorted out before commencement of production of pre-production series (PPS). However, on 31 July 1989 Ministry decided to place orders for the production of PPS tanks. Two fully integrated prototypes were given to the Army for full fledged evaluation only in March 1990 after the commencement of production of PPS tanks. The evaluation trials of the prototypes also revealed major deficiencies. Subsequent trials were conducted on PPS tanks. Till July 1997, 15 pre-production series tanks which were subjected to extensive user and troop trials failed to meet fully even the bottom line parameters of the user.

As of mid-2000 India planned to acquire T-90 tanks, based on field trials which had already been completed. Although orders had been placed for the supply of 124 Arjun tanks through the Defence Research Development Organisation, it would be difficult to predict when these orders would be fufilled. Until such time, T-90 tanks would serve to counter Pakistan's T-85 tanks.

Pakistan’s announcment in 1995 of a deal with Ukraine to purchase T-84s caused a flurry of activity in the Indian tank development community. And on 9 January 1996, the Arjun was formally unveiled and cleared for mass production. Further improvements were deemed necessary even after the Arjun design profile was accepted again in July 1996. On 27 August 1996, the Defense Production and Supplies Secretary ordered 15 pre-production tanks from the Heavy Vehicles Factory, Avadi (at which point, estimates placed the project cost at $112 million).

The Summer trials carried out in April 1997 on PPS-15, reference tank for bulk production indicated that though there was improvement from the previous years, it was still below the acceptable standards. The major deficiencies pointed out in the summer trials of 1996 i.e. accuracy of gun at battle ranges, mission reliability, lethality of ammunition, containerisation of ammunition bin, emergency traverse etc. continue to persist and were yet to be solved. The Army accordingly indicated in July 1997 that in its present form, the overall reliability of MBT Arjun was far from satisfactory. The Army further indicated that periodic failures of equipment and subsystems tend to reduce the confidence level of troops. The Army also observed that the aspect of armour protection had not been tried out.Army recommended in June 1997 that Limited Series Production should commence only after all the observations and shortcomings noticed were rectified and shown to them.

As of mid-1997 the list of faults after 20 years of development was not encouraging. In addition to numerous technical modifications to its fire and gun control systems, the fire control system in particular has been found unable to perform in temperatures above 42 degrees Celsius (108° F). The DRDO has been considering scrapping the current Arjun fire control system in favor of whatever is accepted for the T-72M1 upgrade program. Defects noticed during the user trials of the Arjun Mk.1 MBT, including over-heating of the engine in Rajasthan desert areas, had supposedly been “by and large overcome†while other complaints were being addressed.

MBT Arjun in its present form will require increased maintenance time and efforts-says the Army. The Army accordingly expressed grave concern on the reliability and maintainability of MBT and pointed out that while the world over the trend was to reduce the maintenance time, it had increased with MBT Arjun. According to DRDO, the views expressed by the Army are only a subjective opinion and the analysis of data shows an upward trend in mean time between failures (MTBF) over the years. DRDO have pointed out that trials carried out clearly brought out the efficiency/improvements effected in weapon system and in the automotive area ability to cover the required range in the stipulated time was also proved. They further contended that there is no overheating of the engine in desert conditions. Summer trials of 1997 indicated that the performance was below the acceptable standards.

Considered comparable to the M1A2 Abrams, Leopard 2, and Leclerc, the 59-ton "15th Variant" can achieve a maximum speed of 70 kph (55 mph) and cross-country speed of 40 kph with its 1400-hp powerplant. The 1,610-liter fuel tank allows for a cruising range of 200 km (120 miles). To ensure crew survivability, production versions will have the indigenously-researched and developed ‘Kanchan’ composite armor, an automatic fire detection and suppression system, and an NBC protection system designed and built by the Bhabha Atomic Research Center.

The rifled 120mm gun, which includes a muzzle reference system, is made of ESR steel and is fitted with a thermal sleeve and fume extractor. All main gun rounds use a semi-combustible cartridge case with increased energy propellant for higher muzzle velocity and greater penetration characteristics. In addition to the usual suite of rounds, an anti-helicopter round is under development as well. The Arjun’s fire control system includes a laser rangefinder, ballistic computer, thermal imaging night sight, stabilized panoramic sight for the tank commander, and a secondary telescopic sight. The LRF (integral to the gunner’s sight) has a range of nearly 10 km and a thermal imager (which can “seeâ€â€™ at around 5.5 km, recognize a target at 3.1 km and identify targets at 2.5 km). The Arjun fire control system’s ability to fire on the move during the night is a major step forward for Indian armored forces.

The Chassis and Automative System of MBT Arjun comprises main chassis, power pack (1400 HP engine coupled to hydromech transmission), running gear with hydropneumatic suspension, integrated fuel system, advanced electrical system and other dedicated special systems like integrated fire detection and suppression system. The chassis is fabricated from rolled homogenous armour plate using advanced welding technique. Frontal armour is of Kanchan composite sandwitched between armour plates. This fully integrated Arjun chassis and Automative System having smooth riding characteristics can be used as a mobile platform for any advanced weapon system. An extremely effective hydropneumatic suspension system has been developed for MBT Arjun. The suspension is externally mounted and provides vehicle springing and damping. It consists of one bogey wheel pair for each suspension station. Gaseous medium in the hydropneumatic suspension is for all terrain maneuverability for exploiting the power available. Casing and hub of the hydropneumatic suspension are sealed for preventing dust ingression and water seepage into the casing during operation in marshy area or shallow/medium fording. The MBT Arjun is fitted with double-pin steel track with detachable rubber pads. It is made out of steel casting having two bores for insertion of rubberised pins. It is an integral piece incorporating guide horns and has got a provision for insertion of detachable pads. The end connectors are induction-hardened in the area which comes in contact with the sprocket teeth to prevent wear.

As the indigenous efforts to develop a suitable engine and transmission system for the MBT were beset with problems, 42 power packs with transmission units were imported between November 1983 and 1988 from Germany for use on the prototypes and PPS tanks. However, as the imported transmission system was designed to cater upto 60 tonne load as against the all-up weight of 61.5 tonne for the MBT, a mismatch had arisen between engine and transmission which had resulted in bulging of side walls of the hull.

The integrated fire and explosion suppression system developed for MBT Arjun is based on state-of-the-art technology. The indigenous development of this system is considered to be a breakthrough in the field of fire protection engineering. It is capable of suppressing hydrocarbon fuel fire/explosion resulting from an enemy hit on the tank or due to any malfunctioning of the engine, transmission or any electrical short circuiting. The system is based on infra-red detectors for the detection of fire/explosion in the crew compartment of the battle tank and a continuous type of linear thermal detector popularly known as fire-wire for the engine compartment. Halon-1301 has been employed as a fire extinguishing medium. The system is capable of detection and suppression of hydrocarbon fuel fire/explosion in the crew compartment within 200 milliseconds and in the engine compartment within 15 s thereby enhancing the chances of survivability of the crew and battle effectiveness of the tank.

The first 120 tanks to be built would cost $4.2 million each, while other cost estimates places the figure at $5.6 million each per tank by 2001, given a purchase of 124 tanks to equip two regiments. Production of the first batch of tanks might take more than the planned five years, given the capacity at the Avadi factory.

Planned Arjun variants include mobile assault guns, an observation post vehicle, an air defense (gun or missile) version, a recovery vehicle, an engineer vehicle, and bridgelayers. New bridgelayers and recovery vehicles were necessary, given the Arjun’s substantial weight increase over the T-72M1 series.

Specifications
ARJUN Mk 1 (15th Preproduction Model)

Weight 59 tons (58.5 tonnes)
Length (gun forwards) 10.19m
Width (over tracks) 3.5m
(w/ skirts) 3.85m
Height (w/o 12.7mm AAMG) 2.32m
Engine 1400 HP MTU 838 Ka 501Diesel
Transmission Semi-automatic with 4 forward and 2 reverse gears.(also reported as ZF automatic)
Fuel 1610 ltrs
PERFORMANCE
Max Speed 72-70 kph (55 mph)
Cross Country Speed 40 kph
Cruising Range 200 km (120 miles)
Ground Pressure . 84 kg/cm Square
Ground Clearance .45m
Slide Slope: 60%
Climbing Gradient 35°
Trench 2.43 m (also given as 3m)
Vertical Obstacle .9m
Ford 1.4 m
ARMAMENT
Main Gun 120mm, stabalized w/ MRS (APFSDS, HE, HEAT, HESH and smoke)
12.7mm AA Gun (probably NVST)
7.62mm Coax (probably PK-T)
2 X 9 Smoke Grenade Launchers
LRF Range 10 km
Sights Thermal (Max Rng 5.5 km)
Active and Passive
Defensive Systems 'Arena' a possibilty, probable Laser Warning System
and the link is...http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/arjun.htm
and also will the Arjun be better than the Russian T-90?
 

dabrownguy

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Re: Will the Arjun be a failure?

Please state your reasons for your vote! I need to get a opinon here!
 

dabrownguy

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From what I have read from some source I can't find again states that the Arjun will be equal to a Leapord mk III. But thats only on paper, if the scientest manage to fix the cooling system and fix the other bugs. They also need to make a transport that can handle the Arjun's weight and dimension.
Main Battle Tank, Arjun

Main Battle Tank (MBT) Arjun is a multi-laboratory programme of DRDO with CVRDE as the lead Laboratory. It is a state-of-the-art tank with superior fire power, high mobility, and excellent protection. Twelve Mk 1 prototypes of MBT Arjun have been manufactured and their performance tests have provided satisfactory results. Some of the breakthroughs achieved by CVRDE during the development of MBT Arjun are in Engine, Transmission, Hydropneumatic Suspension, Hull and Turret, and Gun Control System.

Salient Features

Fire Power

The superior armour defeating capability of the indigenously developed Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition and 120 mm calibre rifled gun give MBT ARJUN an edge over contemporary world tanks. A computer-controlled integrated fire control system incorporating day-cum-night stabilized sighting system guarantees a very high first round hit probability and reduced reaction time to bring effective fire on targets.

The stabilization system for the main armament, slaved to the sighting equipment in elevation and azimuth, with a high and accurate laying speed, allows fire on the move.

The superior fire power of MBT is based on:

Accurate and fast target acquisition capability during day and night and in all types of weather .
Shortest possible reaction time during combat engagements
Ability to accurately engage targets on move
Capability to destroy all possible enemy armour at maximum battle ranges
Excellent first hit probability
Main Armament

The rifled 120 mm ARJUN gun together with the newly developed super velocity ammunition, can defeat any contemporary armour used in tanks. The electro-slag refined gun steel tube is autofrettaged to withstand higher gas pressures. A thermal jacket prevents irregular temperature distribution on to the tube due to the weather influences.

Secondary Armament

A co-axial 7.62 mm machine gun for anti-personnel and a 12.7 mm machine gun for anti-aircraft and ground targets are provided as secondary weapons.

Gunner's Main Sight

Gunner's Main Sight consists of a day-sight, thermal sight, a laser range finder and a stabilized head common to all the three channels. The common sighting head mirror is stabilized in elevation and azimuth. The day- sight provides dual magnification.

The thermal imager provides night vision facility to the gunner and the commander to observe and engage target in total darkness and in the presence of smoke, dust, haze and light camouflage. Integral with the main sight is the laser range finder by which targets can be ranged accurately.

Panoramic Sight for Commander

Commander's panoramic sight enables the commander to effect an all round surveillance in the battlefield without removing his eyes from the sight and without being disturbed by the turret motion. The field of view is stabilized with the help of a two axes rate gyro-mounted on the platform of the head mirror. The sight offers dual magnification.

Ammunition

Two types of ammunition, viz, FSAPDS and HESH have been developed for this armament. The highly lethal
FSAPDS ammunition which is the main battle ammunition of the tank has accounted itself admirably during the trails. In addition, the anti-helicopter round to combat the air threat to armour is also under development.

Mobility

Low ground pressure, high power-to-weight ratio and new design concepts in transmission suspension and
running gear result in highly mobile and agile weapon platform.

The remarkable mobility of MBT which also adds to its protection is the result of:


High performance engine
Robust and effective transmission system particularly flexible hydropneumatic suspension .
Optimized running gear with its high shock energy absorption.
Due to the high power-to-weight ratio and low specific ground pressure, MBT is fast, highly manoeuvrable and extremely mobile to cross the most difficult terrain with ease. High acceleration rapid braking capabilities with excellent steering characteristics make MBT agile in the battlefield. Adequate fuel storage capacity and relatively low fuel consumption allow for an optimal operational range.

An important criterion for the mobility of any AFV is the effective performance of the driver. Excellent vision systems both for day and night provide most effective means of observation in all battlefield conditions. The need to keep the crew's fatigue including that of driver at the minimum level over long periods of continuous operation, have been taken care of.

Protection

All round protection from anti-tank ammunition is achieved by t~e newly developed KANCHAN armour to a degree much higher than available in present generation tanks. The high degree of immunity is achieved by.

The computerised design and simulation
A fabricated turret housing lightweight compact KANCHAN armour
Careful dimensioning of wall through optimal slopes and angles
A low silhouette

Crew Comfort
Ergonometry, using anthropometric data of Indian troops, has been kept in view while designing the fighting and driving compartments to fully exploit the outstanding features of the weapon system. Hydropneumatic suspension provides excellent ride comfort for crew eliminating fatigue even on the extended runs.



Specifications
Dimensions
Overall length {with gun forward) 10.638 m
Overall height {with gun rear) 9.546 m
Overall height {with AD gun mount) 3.03 m(Turret roof: 2.32 m)
Overall width 3.864 m
Combat weight 58.5 tons

Technical Characteristics
Max speed 70 km/hr
Max speed on cross country 40 km/hr
Ground pressure 0.84 kg/sq. cm.
Engine power 1400 HP at 2400 rpm
Engine characteristics V 90° Turbo charged diesel, 10 cylinder water cooled
Power-to-weight ratio 24:1 HP/ton
Gear box 4 fwd +2 rev gears Epicyclic gear train, Torque converter, Mech lockup clutch & hydrodynamic retarder
Steering Double radii, mechancial steering with neutral turn
Suspension Hydrogas
Shallow fording 1.4 m
Vertical obstacle 0.914 m
Trench crossing 2.43 m
Gradient 35 deg
Gun 120 mm rifled
Rate of fire 6-8 rounds per minute
Ammunition 39 rounds (FSAPDS/HESH)
Co-axial machine gun Mag 7.62 mm Tk 715 A
Anti aircraft machine gun HCB 12.7 mm
Fire control system Director type
Gun control system Electro-hydraulic
Night vision Thermal imaging
Ballistic computer Digital
Crew 4 (Cmdr, Gnr, Ldr. Dvr)
I found this at DRDO.com.
Please opinons are valued I need some ones opinon.
 
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Well given my background, this tank seems to me to be well designed and should prove to be a capable tank. I don't put much faith in marketing literature, "the 'lightweight' compact KANCHAN armour has been developed to provide much higher protection than any other tank" I find a bit debatable as well. It may be good, though in your own quote even the Indian Army has it's doubts about it's army. I wouldn't be too concerned about the developmental problems. It's a new vehicle. Every new piece of military hardware has 'teething' problems. Cheers.
 

dabrownguy

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Thanks. But I already went to another forum to dicide. It seems a lot of people believe it is better than the T-90 and the Al-Khalid. The tanks problem was the engine. But the tank has much armor and is heavier than the T-90. Its hit and run accuracy is 90% which is awsome in my opinons. I have also heard India is working on a lighter tank, Tank Ex. India is also working on an improved version of the Arjun, Arjun 2. Any comments?
 

gf0012-aust

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Leopard 111?? There is no Leopard 111.

Isn't the Arjun a modified version of the Vickers MBT??
 
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Don't you find it a bit odd that they are working on an Arjun 2, before the Arjun comes into service?
 

umair

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It definitely is an impessive tank on paper.But I feel that the Indians have made a mistake by choosing a tank of such large dimensions for dessert warfare.I had a chat with my dad's cousin(he's in the army) about the vibility of such a tank in dessert terraine and he was doubtful of it's performance.The terraine of subcontinental desserts is quite soft unlike that of the arabian dessert. A tank of Arjun's dimensions may well find itself bogged down and outmanuvered by lighter medium tanks here(we learned this with our Pattons).The 90% first hit probability is great but the T-80s and Al-Khalids in service have also demostrated a first hit ratio greater than 90%.Coupled with the DU APFSDS munitions that Pakistan uses I would say that the Arjun might find itself a tad disadvantaged in battle.
 

dabrownguy

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That is true but the only majour problem is the engine and thats being worked on. Maybe its not better than the leapord, but I think it is better than the T-90. The Al-Khalid is a chinese version of the T-90. The Arjun when finshed will be one of the heaviest tanks in the world. I think the projects taking a long time because they started of with scratch so it was plagued with problems. When the problems are fixed it will be a formidable tank indeed. The tank is heavy, but i assume that the heavier the better the armor. The Arjun has a hit probability greater than 90% while moving.
It will also have some FSAPDS (SOFT CORE) AMMUNITION, I don't know much about it. This is the site http://www.drdo.com/products/fsapds.htm
I think this ammunition is to be used with the new tanks underdeveloment. Any comments?
 

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dabrownguy said:
That is true but the only majour problem is the engine and thats being worked on. Maybe its not better than the leapord, but I think it is better than the T-90. The Al-Khalid is a chinese version of the T-90. The Arjun when finshed will be one of the heaviest tanks in the world. I think the projects taking a long time because they started of with scratch so it was plagued with problems. When the problems are fixed it will be a formidable tank indeed. The tank is heavy, but i assume that the heavier the better the armor. The Arjun has a hit probability greater than 90% while moving.
It will also have some FSAPDS (SOFT CORE) AMMUNITION, I don't know much about it. This is the site http://www.drdo.com/products/fsapds.htm
I think this ammunition is to be used with the new tanks underdeveloment. Any comments?
You just stated that Arjun "when finished" will be one of the heaviest tanks in the world. That is the most major point there you go wrong about conditions in the Rajhistan desert areas bordering Pakistan. I think gf is right. The tank will get bogged down and will have a lot of battlefield difficulties.
 

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I think gf is right. The tank will get bogged down and will have a lot of battlefield difficulties.

Hmmm, I don't think I've actually said that.

BTW, the absolute tonnage of the tank doesn't mean much - depending on the environment it will be in.

What is critical is ground pressure - that is a distinctly different issue from absolute weight.

Any tank with a low ground pressure and a balanced HP to weight ratio will not be getting bogged.
 

cheenum

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Here are the Numbers

Ground pressure 0.84 kg/sq. cm.
Engine power 1400 HP at 2400 rpm
Power-to-weight ratio 24:1 HP/ton

Can Somebody translate it into Plain English and give their opinion on how heavy Arjun is !!!

I feel that Arjun has overcome its teething problems and maturing as a Tank. HVF Avadi is manufacturing the T90 along with Arjun MBT and thus all the defeciencies in the current model of Arjun MBT would be solved soon...
Arjun II will be a lot better !!!
 

gf0012-aust

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Based on the numbers you have provided, the tank should be approx 58 tonnes

Lighter than an M1aX and a Chally 2
 

cheenum

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http://www.drdo.com/products/mbt.htm

This is from the DRDO's site

"Low ground pressure, high power-to-weight ratio and new design concepts in transmission suspension and
running gear result in highly mobile and agile weapon platform.

The remarkable mobility of MBT which also adds to its protection is the result of:


High performance engine
Robust and effective transmission system particularly flexible hydropneumatic suspension .
Optimized running gear with its high shock energy absorption.
Due to the high power-to-weight ratio and low specific ground pressure, MBT is fast, highly manoeuvrable and extremely mobile to cross the most difficult terrain with ease. High acceleration rapid braking capabilities with excellent steering characteristics make MBT agile in the battlefield. Adequate fuel storage capacity and relatively low fuel consumption allow for an optimal operational range.

An important criterion for the mobility of any AFV is the effective performance of the driver. Excellent vision systems both for day and night provide most effective means of observation in all battlefield conditions. The need to keep the crew's fatigue including that of driver at the minimum level over long periods of continuous operation, have been taken care of."

Let the experts decide...
 

dabrownguy

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cheenum said:
Here are the Numbers

Ground pressure 0.84 kg/sq. cm.
Engine power 1400 HP at 2400 rpm
Power-to-weight ratio 24:1 HP/ton

Can Somebody translate it into Plain English and give their opinion on how heavy Arjun is !!!

I feel that Arjun has overcome its teething problems and maturing as a Tank. HVF Avadi is manufacturing the T90 along with Arjun MBT and thus all the defeciencies in the current model of Arjun MBT would be solved soon...
Arjun II will be a lot better !!!
Actually from what I keep on hearing. Arjun MK2 is the first production batch. It seems the Arjun that can fire the lahat ATGM is the MK2 version.
 

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I think they fixed the over heating problem by installing a Diesel Engine and replacing the Gas turbine engine which the Russians have used.
dabwrongguy said "the al-khalid is the Chinese version of T-90" sure it used Chinese expertise but it was designed by Ukrainian and Pakistani Engineers just like the Indians use Russians in there projects. In most cases you never end up developing any thing on your own i think that’s the case in most projects being developed in the world. I am not sure if the Chinese buy, have or are producing any T-90 I think they have a production line for T85 remember they like quantity rather than quality.
Correct me if i am wrong if you have a heavier Vehicle regardless of the engine wouldn't it make it difficult to climb hill like in Kashmir or wouldn't it need an extremely powerful engine that literally would drink out all the fuel in a climb and which would need refuelling constantly. If Arjun was the best vehicle for the job wouldn’t Russia, which produces some of, the best tanks would of thought of it, I mean there must be a reason why they chose to produce high tech but low weight vehicle ie T-90.
 
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