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Old November 14th, 2010   #46
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It's stated that the vietnamese aircraft have different radios and modified ejection seats. The rest appears to be similar.
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Who is the new owner of the two Prides aircraft restored Flankers??

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Pride Aircraft: Sukhoi SU-27 Flankers

FAA Registry - Aircraft - N-Number Results

Does that address fit with any USAF air base in that area..?
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Apparently there is to be an F-X3 and the Su-35S will be in it. Only time will tell if their government will produce the funds and make a decision.
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I'm a novice at this. But looking at the Flanker, doesn't it look exactly like the copy of the F-15 Eagle?

I maybe wrong. Some of the knowledgeable enthusiasts out there, please explain.
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I'm a novice at this. But looking at the Flanker, doesn't it look exactly like the copy of the F-15 Eagle?

I maybe wrong. Some of the knowledgeable enthusiasts out there, please explain.
It was designed to counter the Eagle and there are superficial similarities (eg. twin engines, twin vertical tails) but its definitely no copy.
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We can add Mexico to the list apparently.
If all they really want to do is strategic surveillance, there are a number of UAVs that can do the job better and more cheaply.
Mexico selects Sukhoi Su-27 for strategic surveillance-09/05/2006-Flight International

Mexico selects Sukhoi Su-27 for strategic surveillance



The Mexican navy has selected Sukhoi’s Su-27 over the Saab/BAE Systems Gripen to equip its first air defence unit.

Head of the service Adm Armando Snchez Moreno says the new fleet of 10 fighters will enable the navy to carry out “strategic surveillance” over key areas of Mexico’s coastline.

Preliminary selection work was initiated in early 2005, and the navy is now entering into contract negotiations with Russia’s Rosboronexport agency for the purchase of eight single-seat Su-27s and two Su-27UB two-seat trainers. Local sources indicate that the entire package – which also includes spare parts, tools and personnel training – is worth slightly over $410 million.
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Dude, that article is very outdated.
There is no Mexico Flanker deal, it never was i think..

Anyway, we can now add Uganda to the Flanker export list.

UPDATED - Russias African sales: key.Aero, Military Aviation
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It was designed to counter the Eagle and there are superficial similarities (eg. twin engines, twin vertical tails) but its definitely no copy.

No, what I meant was that the Flanker looked exactly like the F-15 Eagle because the design and technology were copied or stolen.

Any enthusiasts out there that know international trademark and copyright laws that you may think a copyright enfringement lawsuit could stand in the international court of law against countries that stole these technologies?
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No, what I meant was that the Flanker looked exactly like the F-15 Eagle because the design and technology were copied or stolen.

Any enthusiasts out there that know international trademark and copyright laws that you may think a copyright enfringement lawsuit could stand in the international court of law against countries that stole these technologies?
That's complete nonsense. The two aircraft are largely similar. Fuselage design, intakes, wing, stabilizers, engine separation etc. are all different. The only thing both designs have in common is that they are large, single seat, twin engined fighters with a similar airbrake position.

By the same measure you could say that the Americans have stolen the MiG-25 design...
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No, what I meant was that the Flanker looked exactly like the F-15 Eagle because the design and technology were copied or stolen.

Any enthusiasts out there that know international trademark and copyright laws that you may think a copyright enfringement lawsuit could stand in the international court of law against countries that stole these technologies?
I'm not sure you really mean the Su-27 design are that much alike the F-15C design..

Why don't you just copy paste a few good pics of both of them here in this thread, and point out to us all what why you think the Su-27 is a copy of the F-15C?
And pls do not try to ruin an otherwise nice thread.

One of the obvious similarity would be that both of them was intended for Air superority role and only A2A capability at the time.
The Flanker famely has gained some A2G capability, while US designed the F-15E for a Striker and left the F-15C for the same purpose to this day. And it still kicks ass with all the upgrades over the years.

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I'm hoping that the more senior and/or informed members bring this post back into line real soon, as the way its heading is not going to give it a long shelf life.

Others have already tried stopping the train from derailing, but this is borderline already.

It can and up as flame bait really quickly, so before its canned I'd suggest that those who want it to stay alive do some corrective surgery quick smart.
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Malaysia will sign a 18 Su-30MKM deal.

Looks like the Su-30 export are steady for the time beeing, and the IAF Super 30 deal should materilize soon.

Malaysia plans to buy 18 Russian fighter jets | Air Force News at DefenseTalk
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That would be pretty smart of them. Sukhoi is fairly good about spare parts and maintenance, and this would reduce the multiple numbers of fighter types the Malaysians have in service. Also with the Brahmos, they would have significant maritime strike capability.
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How about the $ 50M each!?

What was the F-15K price? Close to $ 100M?

If these figures stands, then it goes to show how much it cost to have a LIRP of F-15 going.. This is a robbery if we look at capability-wise..
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