Re: Euro-Fighter 2000
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Surely Typhoon is better than Su-30MKI is many areas.
But i would be more interested to compare Typhoon and Su-37.
The main Advantage of Typhoon over Su-30MKI would be its stealth features.
Brief Technical Comparision of Su-30MKI and EF-2000 Typhoon.
Aerodynamics
EF-2000 has instantaneous and sustained turn rates.
EF-2000
EF-2000
Typoon's FBW has triple redundant and Su-30MKI FBW has quadruple redundant.What does it mean?
Cockpit and other avionics
EF-2000
Su-30MKI
It can be also fitted with Imaging IR navgation and has Laser optical locating system and FLIR.
RADAR
EF-2000
As written by turin
It has Another Rearward Facing RADAR
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Can mods transfer this thread to Military Aviation Forum
Surely Typhoon is better than Su-30MKI is many areas.
But i would be more interested to compare Typhoon and Su-37.
The main Advantage of Typhoon over Su-30MKI would be its stealth features.
Brief Technical Comparision of Su-30MKI and EF-2000 Typhoon.
Aerodynamics
EF-2000 has instantaneous and sustained turn rates.
While MKI has High Angle of attack.The "Eurofighter possesses a delta CAN pool of broadcasting corporations interpretation for high flight performances and high Agility in all speed ranges. Those under the trunk lying air intakes provide for an excellent flowing against behavior, also with high angles of incidence. The airplane unites a high lift wing with low flight structural weight and very strong engines. It is inherently aerodynamically unstable. Without the computer-assisted control the bird would break out violently upward, it would not be not controllable by
a pilot.
EF-2000 Has huge advantage,it is has 7 times small RCS than Su-27.We cannot call it has completely stealthy like B-2 or F-22 but its a stealthy aircraft.Su-30MKIThe Su-30MKI aerodynamic configuration is an unstable longitudinal triplane. The canard increases the aircraft lifting effectiveness. It deflects automatically and allows high angle-of- attack flights. The integral aerodynamic configuration combined with thrust vectoring results in practically unlimited manoeuvrability and unique taking off and landing characteristics.Stability and control are assured by a digital FBW.
Su-30MKI has no AOA limitations which gives advantage to pilot in deploying weapons in any direction.Without extreme stealth characteristics with the development of the Eurofighter was done, one tried only the?natuerlichen as far as possible? To keep as small radar cross section as possible. This entails a considerable cost saving. Such characteristics, like them the F-22 or the F-117a possess are useful only with the employment in spacious even areas in middle or large heights. The Eurofighter however conceived for the BVR employment, for this is sufficient as small a radar cross section as possible. In addition it comes still that for a stealth airplane the weapon load must be carried internally, which limits their extent rather.
StructureThe term "super-maneuverability" was coined by Dr. Wolfgang Herbst, initiator of the USA's X-31 prototype program, in defining controllability up to 60° to 70° Angle-of-Attack with transients of 120° or more.The Su-30MKI has no AoA limitations: it can fly at even 180 degree AoA and still recover. This high super-agility allows rapid deployment of weapons in any direction as desired by the crew. The addition of another seat means that the pilot is free to concentrate on flying the aircraft while the second pilot can engage targets
EF-2000
Su-30MKIIt takes place an arrangement in arrangement in forward fuselage, central trunk, tail, left wing, right wing and vertical stabilizer. The construction took place also under the criterion to create an airplane with as small a radar cross section as possible.
FCSThe Su-30MKI is a highly integrated twin-finned aircraft. The airframe is constructed of titanium and high-strength aluminium alloys. The engine nacelles are fitted with trouser fairings to provide a continuous streamlined profile between the nacelles and the tail beams
EF-2000
Su-30MKIThis been made by a digital, 4-kanaliges Fly By Wire system (triple redundant), which the movements over sensors, implemented by the pilot at the control stick, takes up, into which four existing computers processes and as control signals to the servo actuators attached to the surfaces and flaps passes on. The flight control covers likewise the armament and the fuel supply.
The Flight control of computer (FCCs) is both among themselves and in each case connected with the individual sensors and announcements.
The FCS is likewise responsible for the flight control, which covers not only an autopilot, but also automatic patrol flights and attacks. for the disoriented pilot it gives also still. With manipulation the airplane is brought automatically into an easy climb.
Both have similar capability FBW butFor flight control, reliability and survivability, the aircraft has a FBW with quadruple redundancy. Depending on the flight conditions, signals from the control stick position transmitter or the automatic FCS will be coupled to the remote control amplifiers. Upon updating, depending on the flight speed and altitude, these signals are combined with feedback signals fed by acceleration sensors and rate gyros. The resultant control signals are coupled to the high-speed electro-hydraulicactuators of the stabilizers, rudders and the canard. For greater reliability,
Typoon's FBW has triple redundant and Su-30MKI FBW has quadruple redundant.What does it mean?
Cockpit and other avionics
EF-2000
In addition it has passive modes and IRST.The EF-2000 uses advanced user-friendly avionics which allows the pilot to gain optimum control over the aircraft. The avionics used in the EF-2000 include HMS(heal mounted symbology) system and HUD(heads up display). The EF-2000 has the capability to display the FlIR imagery, flight reference information and weapons management to the pilot. The EF-2000 also has three colour MFDs in the cockpit to show the real time tactical information to the pilot which help the pilot have what is called situational awareness of the battlefeild. The MFDs displav vital information like the digital terrain map, the status of the systems on board and the weapons status. The EF-2000 also features commands using voice inputs. This allows the pilot to enter data and procedures using voice.
Su-30MKI
In addition it has satellite navigation system,Secure HF and VHF radio comm.The SU-30MKI employs extensive use of French (Sextant Avionique) components in the cockpit. A total of 6 LCDs, 5 MFD 55s and 1 MFD 66 for displaying information and accepting commands are used. The six LCDs have a wide-screen, offer image-superimposing and are shielded to make them readable even in bright sunlight. All the flight information is displayed on these four LCD displays which include one for piloting and navigation, a tactical situation indicator, and two for display systems information including operating modes and overall operation status. A VEH 3000 holographic HUD is standard. The cockpit also retains some traditional dial displays as standys.
It can be also fitted with Imaging IR navgation and has Laser optical locating system and FLIR.
RADAR
EF-2000
As written by turin
EF uses the CAPTOR-Radar. Its a mechanical pulse-Doppler-Radar. Because its mechanical some people claim its an inferior radar. While new radars are not mechanical moved anymore its capabilities are still up-to-date. It has an official range of about 185 km for figher sized AC and around 370 km for larger ones like commercial AC. It can detect & track up to 20 targets simultaniously and uses a special processing channel (next to detection and tracking) for ECM.
The CAPTOR is integral part of the EF sensor fusion system.
Su-30MKIThe radar offers a multiplicity of air-to-air and air-to-surface modes and is fully and look down capable of of look UP. It can identify and them to priorities assign automatically airborne targets. gelaendedarstellung, ranging or filtering spurious signals caused by waves rank during flights over water. Automatic weapon delivery is supported likewise. The radar is relatively insensitive opposite ECM
It can detect small surface targets at 50km and Ships at 400km.The forward facing Phazotron NO11M Bars is a powerful integrated radar sighting system. The N011M is a digital multi-mode dual frequency band radar (X and L Band, NATO D and I). Antenna diameter is 1m, antenna gain 36dB, the main sidelobe level is -25dB, average sideobe level is -48dB, beamwidth is 2.4 deg with 12 distinct beam shapes. The antenna weighs 100kg.
For aircraft N011M has a 350 km search range and a 200 km tracking range. The radar can track and engage 20 air targets and engage the 8 most threatening targets simultaneously.
Additionally the Su-30MKI can function as a 'mimi-AWACS' and can act as a director or command post for other aircraft. The target co-ordinates can be transferred automatically to atleast 4 other aircraft
It has Another Rearward Facing RADAR
In Radar MKI has slight advantage over Typhoon.The Su-30MKI also has a NO12 rearward facing radar which is housed at the end of the center section spine or sting and alerts a pilot to the approach of an enemy aircraft on his tail. This radar has a range of 50km for a 3 sqm RCS target and 100 km for large ones.It enables the pilot to fire the R-73RDM2 missile without turning to get a positive lock on the enemy aircraft.
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