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Total Personnel (Including Coast Guard): 55.000
Reserves: 55.000
Structure :
Naval Forces Command HQs and 4 sub ...
Total Personnel (Including Coast Guard): 55.000
Reserves: 55.000
Structure:
Naval Forces Command HQs and 4 sub commands: Turkish Fleet Command, Northern Sea Area Command (Black Sea and Sea of Marmara), Southern Sea Area Command (Aegean and Mediterranean), Naval Training Command.
FRIGATES , FAST ATTACK MISSILE CRAFTS AND SUBMARINES
FRIGATES
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
Gabya (G) Class (Oliver Hazard Perry) - 8 - 136 Meter/4.100 Ton, Harpoon SSM, Standard Missile 1 (SM-1) SAM
Tepe Class (Knox) - 4 - 134 Meter/4.260 Ton, Harpoon SSM, Sea Sparrow SAM, ASROC
Barbaros Class (MEKO200-IIA) - 2 - 118 Meter/3.380 Ton, Harpoon SSM, Sea Sparrow SAM
Salihreis Class (MEKO200-IIB) - 2 - 118 Meter/3.380 Ton, Harpoon SSM, Sea Sparrow SAM
Yavuz Class (MEKO200-I) - 4 - 116 Meter/2.919 Ton, Harpoon SSM, Sea Sparrow SAM
TOTAL: 20
Note: Phalanx or Sea Zenith air defence systems are available in all frigates.
CORVETTES
Aviso A69 (D'Estienne D'Orves) or B Class - 6 - 80 Meter/1.250 Ton, Exocet SSM. Anti-Submarine Corvettes.
TOTAL: 6
FAST ATTACK MISSILE CRAFTS
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
KILIC Class Type TPB57 052B - 3 - Harpoon SSM
YILDIZ Class Type FPB 57 - 2 - Harpoon SSM
DOGAN Class Type FPB 57 - 8 - Harpoon SSM. Fire control, command control, communications and power systems upgraded
KARTAL Class Type S141 - 8 - Penguin Mk2 SSM
KILIC II Class - 0 - 1 under delivery, 2 under construction, 1 ordered
TOTAL: 21
SUBMARINES
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
GUR Class Type 209T2/1400 - 1 - 1 under construction + 2 more ordered. All being built in Turkey. Harpoon SSM.
PREVEZE Class Type 209T1/1400 - 4 - Built in Turkey. Harpoon SSM.
ATILAY Class Type 209/1200 - 6 - 3 of them built in Turkey. Possible upgrade for the 4 most recently built subs.
TANG Class - 1 - To be retired
TOTAL: 12
AMPHIBIOUS FORCES
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
Ertugrul Class LST - 2 - 400 Personnel/18 Tanks
Osman Gazi Class LST - 1 - 980 Personnel/17 Tanks
Bayraktark Class LST - 2 - 200 Personnel/16 Tanks
Sarucabey Class LST - 2 - 600 Personnel/11 Tanks
Cakabey Class LST - 1 - 400 Personnel/9 Tanks
EDIC Class LCT - 27 - 140 Personnel/6 Tanks
C 302 Class LCM - 19 - 100 Personnel/5 Tanks
Patrol Crafts
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
AB Class Patrol Vessel - 10 - Produced in Turkey, armed with Bofors and Oerlikon guns
SG80 Class Patrol Vessel - 12 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
KW15 Class Coastal Patrol Vessel - 8 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
SG1 Class Coastal Patrol Vessel - 1 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
SG Class Coastal Patrol Vessel - 12 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
MRTP15 Class Interceptor Craft - 17 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
Kaan29 Class Large Patrol Craft - 5 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
SAR33 Class Patrol Vessel - 10 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
SAR35 Class Patrol Vessel - 4 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
SG21 Class Large Patrol Vessel - 14 - Produced in Turkey, in service with the Coast Guard
TOTAL: 93
Mine Warfare Ships
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
Edincik Class - 5 - Transfered from French Navy after a complete overhaul and modernization
S Class - 9 - Old vessels from 60s and 70s
F Class - 4 - Old vessels from 60s
K Class - 3 - Old vessels from 60s and 70s
MHV-45-014 Class - 0 - 1 under delivery, 5 more ordered. Germany was awarded with the contract worth 630 million USD, of building 6 new MCMV ships. First ship will be built in Germany, the rest in Turkey. The contract was signed on 30 July 1999. The project is to be completed by 2007.
TOTAL: 21
NAVAL AVIATION AND MISSILES
Maritime Patrol Aircraft / Anti-Submarine Warfare / Search and Rescue Helicopters (Including the Coast Guard)
TYPE-NUMBER-REMARKS
CN-235-100M - 9 - 6 MPA+3MSA Coast Guard. Project Meltem I
Socata TB20 - 7
C-295 - 0 - Candidate for the 10 aircrafts to be selected for Project Meltem III
S-70B-28D Seahawk - 7 - 8 more ordered + 1 optional
AB-212E - 2 - Electronic Warfare
AB-212N1 - 3
AB-212N3 - 7
AB-206B - 3
AB-204N - 1
AB-412EP - 9 - All Coast Guard SAR
A109K-II - 1 - Coast Guard SAR
CH-60S Knight Hawk - 0 - 6 ordered
Popeye III Turbo Sub-launched Land Attack CASOM - 0 - 350+ km. Secret agreement with Israel. First party of missiles are expected to be delivered in 2008.
Exocet MM38 SSM - ? - 65 km
Penguin Mk2 Mod1 SSM - ? - 27 km
Penguin 2 Mod 7 AGM - 26 - 32km
HellFire II-M3 AGM - 84 - 8 km. To be used with the Sea Hawk helicopters
Sea Skua AGM - ? - 15 km
RIM7 Sea Sparrow SAM - ? - 15 km
SM 1MR Standard Missile SAM - ? - 46 km
BORA D SAM (1X4 FIM-92B/C Stinger) - 1 - pre-production model. Under development. Stinger mounted on naval platforms. Planned for fast attack missile crafts.
PROJECT MELTEM: Meltem 2: integration of hi-tech avionics and reconnaissance/surveillance equipment to 9 CN-235 aircraft which were locally produced under Meltem 1 project plus 10 additional aircraft which will be locally produced under Meltem 3 project. Status: Contract signed in 2003 with the French company, Thales. On track.
Meltem 3: Production of additional aircraft (most probably C-295) for naval reconnaissance/surveillance roles. Status: Replies to the request for proposals received from two companies, the aircraft type will be selected in early-2004.
PROJECT LONG HORIZON: Establishment of a large-scale sea-air-land radar, radar-ESM and communications network for the purpose of detecting and identifying the surface vessels on the Aegean Sea by providing a real-time coverage. Status: Contract signed with delay on 30 July 2003. Expected completion date for the project is late-2006.
PROJECT MILGEM: Acquisition of 8 (+4 optional) anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and patrol corvettes. Status: Suspended.
PROJECT TF-2000: Local production of 6 TF-2000 anti-air warfare (AAW) and command and control frigates. Status: Suspended due to financial problems.
4 KILIC II Class Fast Attack Missile Crafts: Status: On track.
8 or 9 S-70B Sea Hawk helicopters: Status: On track.
Popeye III Turbo Sub-launched Land Attack CASOM: Status: First party of missiles are expected to be delivered in 2008.
BORA D SAM (1X8 FIM-92B/C Stinger): Stinger mounted on naval platforms. Planned for Fast Attack Missile Crafts. Status: Under development.
The name of the Turkish Navy’s latest shipbuilding program is “MİLGEM” which foresees building of 12 Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV). The project name “MİLGEM” (Milli Gemi - National Ship), summarizing the main goal of the project, means that this shipbuilding project will be realized through the maximum use of national means. .
Local production of ships’ systems, with technology and know-how transfer for maximum national contribution, is ultimate aim of the project. The total national contribution to MİLGEM Programme is expected to be around 80 percent.
MİLGEM program rose from the need to replace the existing patrol ships that are getting close to the end of their economical operation lives. The program was commenced officially in January 1996. Ships to be constructed within the scope of this program will be designed to meet the requirements of a complex combat system that integrates all weapon and sensor systems within a centralized command and control system. The ships will operate either as a single unit or in coordinated operations with other naval forces and will be capable of,
Patrol in littoral waters
Search and rescue
Anti submarine warfare patrol
Pursuit and prevention of the terrorist activities in the sea
Protection of the coastal transportation.
The design of the ships will be developed from a proven hull form and will have notable sea keeping performance characteristics. Reduced detectability and enhanced survivability of the ships are the key operational requirements. The ships will have notable stealth characteristics with low radar cross-section, acoustic signature and underwater noise.
Evaluating the experience gained through shipbuilding projects, it has been concluded that if the Navy’s current expertise in military shipbuilding is combined with existing capabilities of the private shipyards together with the universities and related supporting industries, a shipbuilding project of the size and complexity of an OPV can be accomplished. The design and the construction of the first ship will be completed at İstanbul Naval Shipyard. Construction of the following ships will be continued at local private shipyards.
The design of the first MİLGEM ship was commenced in 2004. It is planned to have her in service in 2010.
Turkey To Buy Up to 17 Helicopters from Sikorsky
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, ANKARA
Turkey has decided to buy up to 17 Seahawk helicopters for its navy from U.S. manufacturer Sikorsky Aircraft, Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul said.
The deal involves the initial purchase of 12 Seahawks with an option for five more, Gonul told journalists late June 22, Anatolia news agency reported.
He did not disclose the financial terms of the deal.
The Turkish armed forces already have eight S-70B Seahawk helicopters.
I would think HDW type 214 is the favorite for the Turkish Navy new SSK since they already operate type 209. Any chance of the Collins-class being selected?
Last edited by radiosilence; January 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 AM.
I would think HDW type 214 is the favorite for the Turkish Navy new SSK since they already operate type 209. Any chance of the Collins-class being selected?
The Collins is a big oceangoing sub which is oversized and too expensive for brown water operations in the Aegean or in the Black Sea.
There are only 2 potential candidates with one outsider : DCN's Scorpene or Marlin, HDW U214 and the outsider Lada/Amur. Since local production is requested, and since so far only German subs have been built, I'd bet 10:1 that HDW will win the deal. However there will be tight clauses against delays or technical problems...
The Collins is a big oceangoing sub which is oversized and too expensive for brown water operations in the Aegean or in the Black Sea.
There are only 2 potential candidates with one outsider : DCN's Scorpene or Marlin, HDW U214 and the outsider Lada/Amur. Since local production is requested, and since so far only German subs have been built, I'd bet 10:1 that HDW will win the deal. However there will be tight clauses against delays or technical problems...
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I don't think DCN has a shot due politcal reasons.
thanks ahmet all of ur nice working abaut navy and it s equipmants i would help u abaut navy but i counldnt ve time for internet with hope u ll show our real face on the military
Nice work happening in your navy.I believe the only disadvantage is the frigates .All of Knox class were launched in 1971,1972 so there are ships 35 years old(with steam engines!).If they are retired the actual number of frigates is reduced to 16.Also the A69 corvettes were launched between 1973 and 1977,so approximately 30 years old ships(They don't even have modern SAM system,correct me if I make a mistake).So my point is that the Turkish navy has actually 16 frigates and 2 "seas" to divide this number.It is dificult because Turkish navy must have 14 frigates in Aegean because we (Greece)have 14 frigates.So only 2 frigates remain to guard the Black sea.And if some frigates are decided to guard the southern sea of Turkey I mean between Cyprus,Syria etc the actual number of frigates in Aegean is further reduced.
Last edited by Gerasimos; January 4th, 2007 at 05:07 AM.
Nice work happening in your navy.I believe the only disadvantage is the frigates .All of Knox class were launched in 1971,1972 so there are ships 35 years old(with steam engines!).If they are retired the actual number of frigates is reduced to 16.Also the A69 corvettes were launched between 1973 and 1977,so approximately 30 years old ships(They don't even have modern SAM system,correct me if I make a mistake).So my point is that the Turkish navy has actually 16 frigates and 2 "seas" to divide this number.It is dificult because Turkish navy must have 14 frigates in Aegean because we (Greece)have 14 frigates.So only 2 frigates remain to guard the Black sea.And if some frigates are decided to guard the southern sea of Turkey I mean between Cyprus,Syria etc the actual number of frigates in Aegean is further reduced.
Good point. Whenever there's enough budget, it may make more sense to build a class of 8+ FFGs instead of 4 AAW FFGs which would actually be DDGs. I think though that the plans are on hold also because the Turkish admirals are waiting to see what the national defence industry can do by itself with the MILGEM project.
I admire the MILGEM corvette project because it is an excellent symbol for Turkey's strong defence industry. IMO it will be on par with most W.European corvettes in the 2000 ton range.
I think 2007 will be a lucrative year for HDW, their U-214 looks like a good export product. On top of Turkey's tender for six SSKs, Pakistan has a requirement for three.
I admire the MILGEM corvette project because it is an excellent symbol for Turkey's strong defence industry. IMO it will be on par with most W.European corvettes in the 2000 ton range.
I think 2007 will be a lucrative year for HDW, their U-214 looks like a good export product. On top of Turkey's tender for six SSKs, Pakistan has a requirement for three.
MILGEM seems to be a good project although I believe that if the first ship is going to be commisioned in 2010 the RAM it carries(7.5km range) will be out of date.Also their cost is 200 million $ each,the MEKO 200 frigates shouldn't cost more than 300-400 million $,so why not MEKO and even more if these corvettes will have a coastal defense role why not a FACM our Roussen class for example cost 92 million each and were built here in Greece.So with 1.6 billion $(cost of 8 Milgem) you could buy 4-5 MEKO or 16 FACMs
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