SSGN rapid fire?

[Da Nang]

I know the old Oscars class could carry some decent anti-ship missiles
and the Ohio class conversions can carry like 150+ cruise missiles.
My question is can either them empty their entire missile load in less
than two minutes? I know the tomahawks on the Ohios aren't anti-ship missiles,
but still I would imagine the ability to sneak up close on your enemies and
unload 150+ missiles at them is kind of useful. Even if the SSGN got
destroyed, I would gladly trade one of them for an enemy fleet or CVBG.
Heck you could also do some serious damage to an enemy base too.

 

[Bonza]

I know the old Oscars class could carry some decent anti-ship missiles
and the Ohio class conversions can carry like 150+ cruise missiles.
My question is can either them empty their entire missile load in less
than two minutes? I know the tomahawks on the Ohios aren't anti-ship missiles,
but still I would imagine the ability to sneak up close on your enemies and
unload 150+ missiles at them is kind of useful. Even if the SSGN got
destroyed, I would gladly trade one of them for an enemy fleet or CVBG.
Heck you could also do some serious damage to an enemy base too.

I'm pretty sure they could be volley fired if required - though to what extent I don't know. I suspect that such an event would be a very loud and very obvious one to many potentially hostile sensors. And I wouldn't trade one of only four SSGNs for a massive Tomahawk strike on, say, an enemy CBG, there are other, collective methods for dealing with such a target that would be far more discrete for subsurface assets.

The SSGNs also have special forces staging and ISR taskings that they're responsible for, so they're not just missile trucks. They're extremely potent, flexible and treasured assets. Quiet enough to get in pretty close too, if what you hear around the place is true - a lot of people assume the littoral is the playground of the diesel-electric sub but I wouldn't want the job of hunting an Ohio SSGN or a Virginia (or USS Jimmy Carter, for that matter) in there, either...

 

[gf0012-aust]

My question is can either them empty their entire missile load in less
than two minutes?

nobody is going to discuss fire rates in an open forum

eg the Ohios can ripple their load - its not a volley
I doubt whether any hi load subs would volley as the stresses and strains would be unattractive - hence why they all ripple

 

[My2Cents]

I know the old Oscars class could carry some decent anti-ship missiles
and the Ohio class conversions can carry like 150+ cruise missiles.
My question is can either them empty their entire missile load in less
than two minutes? I know the tomahawks on the Ohios aren't anti-ship missiles,
but still I would imagine the ability to sneak up close on your enemies and
unload 150+ missiles at them is kind of useful. Even if the SSGN got
destroyed, I would gladly trade one of them for an enemy fleet or CVBG.
Heck you could also do some serious damage to an enemy base too.

Probably can't launch them that fast, but with a little creative routing they can all arrive on target, or several targets, within a shorter interval than 2 minutes. Which is the important part anyway.

 

[StobieWan]

I doubt much thought has been given to the matter as the sort of target that might justify that sort of strike would be few and far between. If the USN wanted to sink a carrier or other surface ship, they'd send a Virginia and use Mk48.

Keep the TLAM for other targets I suspect.

Against a land based target, the suggestion of driving missiles in using different routes is very relevant - better to hit a target from several directions using missiles launched over ten, twenty or thirty minutes before the SSGN scoots to relocate.

 

[plasmahawk]

nobody is going to discuss fire rates in an open forum

eg the Ohios can ripple their load - its not a volley
I doubt whether any hi load subs would volley as the stresses and strains would be unattractive - hence why they all ripple

If an SLBM can do it under 4 mins why not...

3mins 44seconds for 16 BMs

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Behemoth#Behemoth-2

@3.29 in video [nomedia]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8sh7-9vNWBk[/nomedia]

P.

 

[gf0012-aust]

If an SLBM can do it under 4 mins why not...

3mins 44seconds for 16 BMs

Operation Behemoth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@3.29 in video http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8sh7-9vNWBk

P.

Not sure if you've ever held a security classification - but Defence rules are that even where material is discussed in the public domain, all efforts should be made to avoid endorsing if you have a position in the Defence establishment - its part of the normal security advice that everyone goes through

maybe the canadians do it differently

 

[Doom Pig]

apologies for resurrecting a dead thread, but...

If an SLBM can do it under 4 mins why not...

It should be pointed out that the TLAM's are mounted on rotary launchers, not single VLS cells like SLBM's. So there's that.

But also, it's a variant of the age old question:

Q: Can God create a rock so heavy that even He can't lift it?
A: He wouldn't​

Teh Wiki says that SSGN-728 launched a salvo 93 TLAM's in support of Odyssey Dawn, with 90 targets destroyed. There is no mention of the RoF because it doesn't matter. With proper routing and targeting, minutes and seconds between launches aren't relevant. As has been said earlier, it's the impact timing that is critical, and that's just a bit of clever waypoint navigation.