Russian Typhoon Subs

[Jtimes2]

Originally Posted by quicksilver

Does anyone know what HEN class of subs means

Hotel/Echo/November.

First generation of Soviet SSBN, SSGN, and SSN respectively. All long since decommissioned.

[Goliat]

You are wrong about Typhoon operational status. There is of course the the modified Dimitry Donski as a test platform for the Bulava missile (NOT SS-NX-30, that is a compeltely different missile. SS-NX-30 is a cruise missile part of the new CLUB-system) Arkhangelsk was recently refulled and Severstal is still operational with 10 SS-N-20.. The Dimitri Donskoy will most likely return to full operational status as soon as the Bulava missile is operational. But doubt these boats are operational long afterwards 2015

[contedicavour]

Originally Posted by Goliat

You are wrong about Typhoon operational status. There is of course the the modified Dimitry Donski as a test platform for the Bulava missile (NOT SS-NX-30, that is a compeltely different missile. SS-NX-30 is a cruise missile part of the new CLUB-system) Arkhangelsk was recently refulled and Severstal is still operational with 10 SS-N-20.. The Dimitri Donskoy will most likely return to full operational status as soon as the Bulava missile is operational. But doubt these boats are operational long afterwards 2015

Could you share your sources with us ? Warfare.ru site for example indicates Seversal as potentially decommissioned.

thks in advance

cheers

[contedicavour]

Russian shipyard has announced a delay of the date of operational capability of the 1st Borey, again...
the Navy has better preserve its existing SSBNs well since replacements will take a long time if the 10+ years needed for construction of the 1st borey are repeated for the sisterships...

cheers

[Jtimes2]

Originally Posted by ComSec

Indeed, the remaining Typhoon though operational is far from combat ready - and is likely never to be. So far they concentrated on testing the SS-NX-30 Bulava missile which will form the basis of their future submarine inventory of ballistic missiles

TK-208 Dmitriy Donskoy is operational with the new SS-NX-30 SLBM; from what I've heard it's in a reduced status meaning it could go to sea in a pinch (say, if a Delta IV had a breakdown and couldn't sail) to maintain a sufficient # of warheads at sea, but she is not part of the regular patrol rotation.

I've heard that one other Typhoon hull is being kept operational with SS-N-20's until the first Borei class SSBN comes on line; then again, I've also heard that the "Sturgeon" missile is retired which would mean all the other Typhoons no longer have a weapon to carry.

[Jtimes2]

Originally Posted by Goliat

You are wrong about Typhoon operational status. There is of course the the modified Dimitry Donski as a test platform for the Bulava missile (NOT SS-NX-30, that is a compeltely different missile. SS-NX-30 is a cruise missile part of the new CLUB-system) Arkhangelsk was recently refulled and Severstal is still operational with 10 SS-N-20.. The Dimitri Donskoy will most likely return to full operational status as soon as the Bulava missile is operational. But doubt these boats are operational long afterwards 2015

Are you sure? Every source I"ve ever seen assigns SS-N-27 to the Klub missile family, and SS-NX-30 to Bulova.