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This is a discussion on Russian Navy Discussions and Updates within the Navy & Maritime forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Does anyone know about this class of ship.. Russian World’s Largest Military Hovercraft: http://englishrussia.com/?p=1908...


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Old October 21st, 2008   #76
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Does anyone know about this class of ship..

Russian World’s Largest Military Hovercraft:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1908
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Old October 21st, 2008   #77
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Project 1232.2 a.k.a. Zubr (meaning 'Bison') class a.k.a. NATO codename Pomornik class Large Air Cushion Landing Craft.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...sia/1232_2.htm
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/zubr/
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Old October 21st, 2008   #78
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Thats one massive impressive thing!, what range does it have ? and can the LPD Ivan Rogov carry it ?
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Old October 21st, 2008   #79
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Thats one massive impressive thing!, what range does it have ? and can the LPD Ivan Rogov carry it ?
1. Ivan Rogov was decommissioned long ago. The only remaining ship of the class is Mitrofan Moskalenko. But perhaps you meant the class.
2. No. Far too wide to fit in the dock. But perhaps this French thing might fit . .
http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=108582
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1. Ivan Rogov was decommissioned long ago. The only remaining ship of the class is Mitrofan Moskalenko. But perhaps you meant the class.
Yes, i meant the class
Any idea what range it has since it can't fit on any LPD ?

Btw, these things are immune to mines i take it ?
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Thanks for the info.

Sounds like they probably fixed the engine problems mentioned by the old Global Security info if the Greeks went on to buy some (?).

Anyway, absolutely great idea for a landing craft...
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Well folks, I hope this Russian article leaves no doubt what kind of carriers they want to have!
http://www.izvestia.ru/armia2/article3121516/?print

It just repeats that: they won't be American style, will have not only aircraft but also AD & AShMs, and be nuclear powered. If they start building them now, the result will come by 2013-2015.
So, if it takes 4-6 years to build 1 or 2 of them (assuming they are built at 2 yards simultaneously), it translates to 16-18 years before 5-6 new carriers are in comission.
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Meh. More rumors.

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По мнению опрошенных "Известиями" экспертов,
From your article. So the description in it isn't official. It's the opinions of some nameless experts. Maybe they're knowledgeable people with inside information that know exactly what they're talking about. Or maybe they're just talking out of their ass. We're right back where we started. Either they will be aircraft carrying cruisers or they won't be.
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True, but if they are going to be just floating airbases, by how much will such CVNs/CBGs be more expensive- besides requiring additional escorts with AShMs and ASW weapons?
From Russian news articles:
NF & Pac. Fleet ships will exercise together in the Indian Ocean before the end of the year. After Venezuela, NF ships will go to the IO; the Pac. Fleet ships will leave for the IO in November.
http://news.google.com/news?ned=ru_r...&hl=ru&topic=n

For those who don't read Russian-
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ta...ncl=1265488755

It's interesting what route they'll take from the Carribean- via the Panama Canal and Pacific or around Africa?

Those exercises will be incomplete without Tu-22/95/160s!

Regarding operations of SSBNs in the Arctic, how safe are they going to be from detection in ice-free summer months?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7139797.stm

Perhaps they'll have to stay closer to shore and/or operate in the Southern Ocean!

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What does that article say? It has diagrams of the kutznetsov and looks an interesting read.

I hope they are planning for a carrier in the 80000 ton range, instead of the 60+ like the kutznetsov nor 100 000 tons like the Americans.

And regarding the NF moving to IO, I belive they will take the Mediterranean as its shorter and safer with plenty of friendly countries to replenish supplies along the way. Also hopefully the Indian Navy joint in the exercises.
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The article praises carrier/cruiser hybrid concept in the Soviet/Russian naval context. It pushes the idea that future carriers should & will continue to be also cruisers capable of operating with land and space based assets such as AD, aviation & BMD. I wish they had an English version of the paper.
If they are going via the Med. again, why did they go there 1st before Venezuela? IMO, it would make sense to stop in Angola, SA & Mozambique this time.
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The Kuznetsov is reported to deploy with escorts to the mediteranian, where they will do manouvers with ships from the black sea.

Kuznetsov will probably be joined by Udaloy I class "Adm Levchenko" and "Severomorsk", just like the last time. The ship(s) from the black sea is probably the Slava class "Moskva".
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At least 20 dead in a wrecked Russian nuclear submarine
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n158825

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"Сегодня, 8 ноября, на одной из атомных подводных лодок Тихоокеанского флота при проведении ходовых испытаний [duting sea trilas] в результате несанкционированного срабатывания системы пожаротушения [as a result of spontaneous firefighting system went off] погибли более 20 человек. Среди погибших рабочие судостроительного предприятия и военнослужащие", [20 killed- sailors and shipyard personnel]..
В конце октября представители Амурского судостроительного завода сообщали, что в Приморье начались ходовые испытания атомной подводной лодки "Нерпа" (проект 971 "Щука-Б", по классификации НАТО "Akula") [At the end of October the Amur shipyard has announced sea trials of Nerpa, project 971, "Akula"] .
http://www.rian.ru/incidents/20081109/154673723.html
This is not good news, especially for India- if that's were that sub was going to be! I hope it's not more than that- otherwise they better have a substitute!

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any idea what class of Sub it is it mentions Russian Navy crew as well as civilians dose that mean it could be a vessel on sea trials that means that if it could be Yury D, Nerpa, the Typhoon Bucklava trial vessel can't think of any other candidates of SSN or SSBN, SSGN which could be a candidate.

very sad the frequency of Russian sub accidents
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Suspect its the Akula II that was meant to be leased to India.
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