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That's interesting. It may be that the tender is a smoke screen for the purchase, so appease those in the administration and MoD who want to see more competitive practices in selecting military equipment for Russia. The tender is indeed extremely rushed, with proposals to be submitted by Nov. 4th, and a winner to be decided in December, with a contract to be signed before the end of the year. Admiralty, Yantar, Severnaya Verf, and Baltiyskiy Zavod are all planning to participate with no word on Sevmash. I suspect Sevmash will be too busy with the Kuznetsov refit for the next few years to participate in Mistral.
There's also been an announcement that France will place no restrictions on the technology transfer with the Mistral purchase.
Just wondering, how long does it typically take for the ship to actually get commissioned after being launched for a russian navy ship these days. Do they launch it bate like the indians or do they fit it out and then launch like the chinese?
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Just wondering, how long does it typically take for the ship to actually get commissioned after being launched for a russian navy ship these days. Do they launch it bate like the indians or do they fit it out and then launch like the chinese?
Before they launch the ship goes through factory testing. I'm not sure what the terms you're using refer to.
Before they launch the ship goes through factory testing. I'm not sure what the terms you're using refer to.
I'm just thinking of looking at Indian ships when they first launched. You can search project 15a and see that when it is launched, it has basically nothing on it. And it takes another 3 to 5 years before the ship can be commissioned with all the electronics and weapons installed.
The Chinese ships like 054A have most of the large sensors and weapon launchers already installed by the time they are launched, so they take at most 1 year to get commissioned after being launched.
Any idea what kind of time frame for Russian naval ships these days?
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Handover is planned for 2011 to the VMF. Launching is when the ship first hits the water then. It's already outiftted with most of its systems. We're talking about a few months, maybe a year, of work, and then a few months of factory testing.
Handover is planned for 2011 to the VMF. Launching is when the ship first hits the water then. It's already outiftted with most of its systems. We're talking about a few months, maybe a year, of work, and then a few months of factory testing.
Well if you look at pictures from just a few weeks ago the frigates superstructure hasnt been painted yet. Shouldnt this be a sign that much work still remains?
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Well if you look at pictures from just a few weeks ago the frigates superstructure hasnt been painted yet. Shouldnt this be a sign that much work still remains?
My best answer is not necessarily. Truth to be told, we won't know more until they say something. As of right now that's what the situation seems to be.
In an other subject the Kalmar class submarines (Delta III) seems to continue to be usefull. Today a R-29R missile test launch was conducted from a submarine in the class.
(a Delta IV submarine did a missile test hours before and a new Bulava test is planned for tomorrow friday)
Well it is a year before it's supposed to go into service, but it's been under construction since 2006.
We've got one more Bulava launch this year in December, then 5 launches including a 2 missile volley launch next year. If all of this succeeds then the missile will enter service in late 2011.
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So your estimates more or less agree with the official ones.
Anyways. Apparently there are plans to build 10 of these over the next decade. With the second one laid down in 2009, and due for handover in 2012, I'm wondering if we will see another one laid down this year, or early next, to keep up with the production rate.
Acourding to Global security the Sergey Gorshkov class will replace both the 956 Sovremennyy and the older Krivak class.
They need to build more then 10 to do this.
