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There could. The deal involves a ToT. The ToT might include the SENIT9 while the main ...
There could. The deal involves a ToT. The ToT might include the SENIT9 while the main deal does not, or something else along those lines. The Mistral is useful one way or the other, as it adds significant capabilitiy to any of the fleets. It also provides a chance to develop the necessary shore infrastructure that is so sorely lacking, as well as being sort of a test. If Russia can successfully induct and operate, (as well as develop necessary infrastructure) the Mistral, then there may be hope for a Russian carrier program. If not, then perhaps the Naval acquisition program will be reprioritized.
Not forgetting that it will be the most comfortable ship in the fleet it will be a complete change in accommodation and crewing for Russian fleet because that one aspects of the Russian fleet is how far behind the Western fleets in shipboard comfort which impacts both physiologically and efficiency wise in the vessel. A place on a Russian mistral will be highly sort after among both officers and enlisted.
Feanor dose this mean more equipment from the west if its successful
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It means more equipment from the west regardless of whether this is successful or not. The Russian MIC will not be able to satisfy MoD needs. This is already apparent in niche areas such as thermals, and optics, sniper rifles for SpetzNaz, UAVs, etc. However the recently announced decision to import armor for light armored vehicles from Germany is indicative.
It means more equipment from the west regardless of whether this is successful or not. The Russian MIC will not be able to satisfy MoD needs. This is already apparent in niche areas such as thermals, and optics, sniper rifles for SpetzNaz, UAVs, etc. However the recently announced decision to import armor for light armored vehicles from Germany is indicative.
How about big ticket items such as Destroyers, and surface combatants. I imagine that aircraft are out of the question due a relatively healthy aircraft biz(baring Yak 130 JV and other aero joint ventures). Do you imagine the MoD will largely recapitalized the armed forces with western equipment with a much smaller market share for Russian kit.
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How about big ticket items such as Destroyers, and surface combatants. I imagine that aircraft are out of the question due a relatively healthy aircraft biz(baring Yak 130 JV and other aero joint ventures). Do you imagine the MoD will largely recapitalized the armed forces with western equipment with a much smaller market share for Russian kit.
I don't know about large shipbuilding. We're doing fine with the Stereguschiy class so far, the second of it has been handed over.
Aircraft wise, the AVMF will have to make due with domestic models. I don't see any foreign replacement for the Tu-22M3, and the Su-33 replacement is the MiG-29K. However there is definitely room for western components in these aircraft. The same way that Thales thermals got internalized on domestic T-90 variants, we can expect other pieces of gear initially used on export variants to be used domestically.
It would be in the way of buying whole technologies - we don't trust West. Russia has announced that there will be no buying something without it's technology - Thales termals, Mistral, laserpod for Su-30/34.
Popovkin said many things - soon we'll see what all of this means or may be it means nothing.
Acourding the the Russian defense minister Russia has reached the final stage of talks on the purchase of four French Mistral-class helicopter carriers.
If a deal is made one ship will be built by france shipbuilders, the second and third will also be constructed by france but with assistence of russian shipbuilders, the fourth one will be totaly builded by Russia.
He also comfirmes that the ships if deployed will be stationed in the North and Pacific Fleet.
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I heard the same but with slight variation, that the first ship will be built in France, the second and third in Russia with large percentage of French components, and the fourth built almost completely in Russia, with full ToT and a production license.
