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Old January 25th, 2008   #46
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I beg to differ Weasel, the current inconclusive evidence is that the RSN has not bought all the Aster missiles and launchers. That the RSN has bougth some. So, the question begs to be answered. What about the rest?

Also, it is a clear indication that the Formidables will be equipped with long range SAM missiles and other armaments just by looking at the design, expansion slots and systems she carries.

However, you are probably right in saying that it would be a somewhat sensitive procurement. It is already that sensitive that RSN did not want to be named by EADs in the press releases for the purchase of Aster 15s. You might see them in photo shots if my speculation is true or when they eventually buy it and make it known officially. We`ll have to see. But there are some things SAF has never acknowledged having. For example, we do not have Tempest tanks. Or Python 4/5 missiles. Or whatever strange looking missiles or bombs that we see sometimes hanging from RSAF planes in amateur photo shots. We never bought them. Really
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Dear Weasel,

I've to agree with Red.

The RSN had only purchased 12 Slyver A43 VL.

They are procuring 12 more Slyver VL which has been much anticipated to

be A50.

The entire SAF is moving towards long range precision strike.

It make sense for the RSN to equip her frigates with Aster 30.

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Dear Weasel,

I've to agree with Red.

The RSN had only purchased 12 Slyver A43 VL.

They are procuring 12 more Slyver VL which has been much anticipated to

be A50.

The entire SAF is moving towards long range precision strike.

It make sense for the RSN to equip her frigates with Aster 30.

Thank you.


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Think about it, getting the ASTER 30 would provide us with a rudimentary near-BMD or more realistically, an air defence system off our coast on the cheap.
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RSS Intrepid, RSS Steadfast and RSS Tenacious have been launched today.

3 new 'stealth' warships help boost air defence

By David Boey, Defence Correspondent
SINGAPORE'S navy will mark a milestone on Tuesday morning when it commissions three new 'stealth' warships expected to add unprecedented muscle to the country's defences.

The 114m-long frigates - Singapore's largest combat vessels - will be armed with anti-aircraft missiles and cutting-edge sensors that allow them to destroy enemy warplanes from up to 15km away.


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I'm looking forward for the installation of Aster 30 and Slyver A50 on these

ubiquitous ships.

What are the upgrade plans for the Victory class missile corvettes and

Landsort 47 class mine counter measure vessels.

Are there any plans for the RSN to procure two more mcmv as normally a

squadron of ship consist of 6 ships.

Is the RSN replacing her Fokker 50 MPA and procuring more S70B's?

Are there plans to procure two more amphibous vessels with capabilities

to accomodate more helicopters or VTOL aircraft?

Please comments.

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Hah. Trust Singapore Straits Times to toe Mindef`s line. The cat is finally outta of the bag it would seem.

" Singapore has a special SAAM configuration on its new frigates, combining Thales Herakles radar with the Slyver A50 launchers and a mix of Aster 15 and Aster 30 missiles."




source Aviationweek in an interview with MDBA. Go here;

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/aw/dti0108/index.php

Go to page 38-39. It includes other stuffs about the future development of the Aster series of missiles.
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As a corollary, this adds fuel to rumours that the SAF is looking at the land-based SAMP-T system to replace the I-hawks. There has been a string of meetings between Singapore officials and France recently. Teo Chee Hean will be meeting the French defence minister in the incoming 44th Munich Conference on Security Policy in Germany from 7to 11 Feb 08 among other officials.
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They may not even retire the I-hawks. Maybe retire the guns at 160 sqn first leaving the blindfire rapiers to handle airfield point defence. The guns are obsolete and the battalion-sized unit already has the necessary structure. The I-hawks are still useful eg area defence in support of ground troops like the marines.
It has been reported that the I-hawks are good for another 10 years or less after the upgrades; probably less than that if you take into account the issue of ten years or less from when henceforth? lol. Usually, SAf makes announcements about commissioning systems 1-2 years after testing a particular system. That`s more than enough time to order and integrate new systems like the land-based Aster 30 missile system. But i kindda of agree with you that the i-hawk would still have its uses then. I mean we can use it to hit cheap and non-threatening projectiles.

The rapiers will not be around for much longer in spite the recent upgrades i think. A RFI has been issued to have the Rapiers replaced recently. Im thinking Crotale Mk3. Could be wrong. Cheers
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I got it. I wont post it here due to possible copyright issues. JDW Oct 24 2007 - Making the Connection. You can check it out.

Singapore`s chief of airforce said that an RFI has been issued to replace the Rapier MK2s. He added that the RBS 70s will be replaced in 5 years time and the I-hawks will be replaced in around 8 years time. All backdated to 2007 of course. I guess it also implies the orders for these new systems will be made much earlier to allow for testing and integration work. I suppose they could bring forward the inception of these systems as well if they feel it is necessary.

Odd though they are going to replace the upgraded Rapier MK2s first as you have said in the preceding post. Cheers
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It's no secret that we announce the "procurement & operationalisation" of a particular system and it turns out that it's been in the works for years, and the fellas trained on it are about to end their National Service term (conscription).

For this reason, I presume the timeline between actual trial and announcement to be at least 2-3 years in nature.

I've heard about our interest in the Crotale for years, peppered in many defence magazines..
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It's no secret that we announce the "procurement & operationalisation" of a particular system and it turns out that it's been in the works for years, and the fellas trained on it are about to end their National Service term (conscription).

For this reason, I presume the timeline between actual trial and announcement to be at least 2-3 years in nature.

I've heard about our interest in the Crotale for years, peppered in many defence magazines..
Crotale missile system?

Pardon me but I thought the French going to phase this out as its considered

antiquated?

Isn't MICA or surface launch AMRAAm more advanced?

Between, since the Formidable frigates are equipped with Slyver A50 VL/Aster 15 & Aster 30, doesn't that makes RSN the 1st navy in the world to operationalise the Aster 30 system?

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