This is a discussion on The Royal Navy Discussions and Updates within the Navy & Maritime forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by ASSAIL
Where does Clyde go for routine docking?
HMS Clyde's home port is HMNB Portsmouth with a ...
Why does Britain need an aircraft carrier to protect the Falklands?
Where did I say we did?
I'm not at all worried about losing the Islands unless we do something completely dim like run the garrison down. Frankly our best approach is robust diplomacy (not everyone out there in the world understands that there's a population that regards itself as British, and it's ridiculous that the Argentinian govt are making statements accusing us of militarising the situation, after having invaded the islands themselves in 82)
Diplomacy backed by deterrence is the way forward.
I'm not at all worried about losing the Islands unless we do something completely dim like run the garrison down. Frankly our best approach is robust diplomacy (not everyone out there in the world understands that there's a population that regards itself as British, and it's ridiculous that the Argentinian govt are making statements accusing us of militarising the situation, after having invaded the islands themselves in 82)
Diplomacy backed by deterrence is the way forward.
I assume then that she returns to the UK every 2 years? Considering that the maintenance is contracted I would have thought that the contractors would find a shipyard a little closer, say Capetown/Simonstown?
I well understand HMNB's I served on exchange in HM Ships based in both Portsmouth and Plymouth!
I assume then that she returns to the UK every 2 years? Considering that the maintenance is contracted I would have thought that the contractors would find a shipyard a little closer, say Capetown/Simonstown?
I well understand HMNB's I served on exchange in HM Ships based in both Portsmouth and Plymouth!
Well this article insinuates that she used too go back to Portsmouth for servicing but now with an engineer on site it can constantly stay and be serviced on the islands.
BAE has an engineer based permanently in the Falklands who works with local companies and the Navy, so that HMS Clyde does not have to sail back 8,000 miles to Britain to be serviced.
Well this article insinuates that she used too go back to Portsmouth for servicing but now with an engineer on site it can constantly stay and be serviced on the islands.
Agree but surely intermediate dockings every 2 years and full refit every 4. All ships require hull fittings serviced every 2 years and shafts pulled for inspections, bearings etc every 4 years minimum.
Clyde is built to class standards and class requires these procedures to be completed.
Nothing can stay in the water indefinitely and certainly not for 8 years!
Hi all, great to see HMS Daring is off on its first posting and HMS Dauntless gearing up for its first deployment but was wondering when will the rest of the type 45s be ready for operations, im sure the fleet really need these assets asap now more than ever,
According to RN site:
HMS Dragon- spring
HMS Diamond - this summer (July?)
HMS Defender - early 2013
HMS Duncan - sometime after that. But she has been launched so probably not long as they are getting quicker
Thats what i thought some one must of had a quite word or a loud one to move this program along this is good news they bring a world class capabilty back for the royal navy and one in demand if rumours are correct from are allies, ,
Thats what i thought some one must of had a quite word or a loud one to move this program along this is good news they bring a world class capabilty back for the royal navy and one in demand if rumours are correct from are allies, ,
I haven't heard any roumers, got some links? I'd be very interested to read them
Thats what i thought some one must of had a quite word or a loud one to move this program along this is good news they bring a world class capabilty back for the royal navy and one in demand if rumours are correct from are allies, ,
Mm...that's a fairly normal cadence for first in class vs last in class ISD's surely? First of the Burke's took almost 18 months from launch to in service.
I think there's some financial pressure to get all six in service as that'd permit the remaining Type 42's to be paid off (and they're expensive to run)
I haven't heard any roumers, got some links? I'd be very interested to read them
Hi rob over the years i have talked to many serving personal in the armed forces and i have heared many rumours, not all my infomation is internet based
but i did hear one recently the US was more than happy that HMS daring was on its way to the persian-oman gulf and that they valued the type 45s capabilities which they have seen first hand in joint navy exercises ., another is the rumour nato wanted the type 45s to be apart of the missile sheild neither are new news or new rumours but if correct show demand for the type 45s capabilities..,,,,,
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Hi rob over the years i have talked to many serving personal in the armed forces and i have heared many rumours, not all my infomation is internet based
but i did hear one recently the US was more than happy that HMS daring was on its way to the persian-oman gulf and that they valued the type 45s capabilities which they have seen first hand in joint navy exercises ., another is the rumour nato wanted the type 45s to be apart of the missile sheild neither are new news or new rumours but if correct show demand for the type 45s capabilities..,,,,,
True, but I've always found it difficult to believe hearsay. People come up with some pretty wacky stuff sometimes
Fair enough though. But for me if NATO wanted the T45 for a missile shield or the US were pleased with Darings deployment, I would have thought the T45 fans in the MoD would want people to know just how good the ship was and how valued the system was globally.
True, but I've always found it difficult to believe hearsay. People come up with some pretty wacky stuff sometimes
Fair enough though. But for me if NATO wanted the T45 for a missile shield or the US were pleased with Darings deployment, I would have thought the T45 fans in the MoD would want people to know just how good the ship was and how valued the system was globally.
Well, some work has already been done in software mods regarding the S8150 VSR, which has the reach for ABM work. Aster 30 can already do the SRBM role so there's a bit of distance to go before we're talking plugging T45 in as a working ABM system. It is possible however.
I get the impression that the SAMPSON radar is doing some seriously impressive stuff however,
Well, some work has already been done in software mods regarding the S8150 VSR, which has the reach for ABM work. Aster 30 can already do the SRBM role so there's a bit of distance to go before we're talking plugging T45 in as a working ABM system. It is possible however.
I get the impression that the SAMPSON radar is doing some seriously impressive stuff however,
Ian
Thats good to know, shows the potential for development. MoD better buy more of them when its more economically viable.
I've heard a rumour that supposedly during joint exercises with the US, a T45s radar (must have been Daring) was asked to be switched off as it was supposedly inhibiting training.
Most probably not true, as much as i'd like it to be.
