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Old February 21st, 2013   #10351
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$2bn Triton drone plan to track asylum boats off Australia | News.com.au

^ Aparently the Aussie gov is sending a letter of request to look into aquiring the Triton UAV's for maritime patrol.

These UAV's look like the serious end of the spectrum... 100 mill a pop and bloody huge. (picture below)

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10 years later....

ie 10 years ago a company I was employed by made the same proposal to Govt about the benefits of using UAS for surveillance

slow learners.....
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Thats the BAMS developed derivative of Global Hawk isnt it?

If so, didn't the Global Hawks do trial flights out here at least 10 years ago? And haven't they been on the "wish list" as part of the P3 replacement for at least 5 years?
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Thats the BAMS developed derivative of Global Hawk isnt it?

If so, didn't the Global Hawks do trial flights out here at least 10 years ago? And haven't they been on the "wish list" as part of the P3 replacement for at least 5 years?
we were offering networked small UAV's in a virtual array configuration.

we offered them up as maritime patrol, coastwatch etc and showed that we could offer reductions in operating costs of 75% over a 10 year period.

govt thought that it was too "flash gordon" and wanted to stick with big platform surveillance
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10 years later....

ie 10 years ago a company I was employed by made the same proposal to Govt about the benefits of using UAS for surveillance

slow learners.....
So I guess RAAF now has the capacity to "take this project on"?

That was the BS reason this Minister used to delay the project multiple times...
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How does the RAAF stand as far as UAV's are concerned at the moment? Are we still committed to the Global Hawk, as we were some ten years ago, or is there a chance we will get something cheaper?
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So I guess RAAF now has the capacity to "take this project on"?

That was the BS reason this Minister used to delay the project multiple times...
RAAF has always had the capacity to take it on.....

Out of all the Services, they've been the ones who've fiercely protected their use of engineers - and it shows in their decision making...
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Just took some photos of the SPS Cantabria in Sydney.
What a good looking ship she is.It was docked at Chowder Bay.
The ship will be around for a few more days.
Makes HMAS Success look like and old hag

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RAAF has always had the capacity to take it on.....

Out of all the Services, they've been the ones who've fiercely protected their use of engineers - and it shows in their decision making...
Earlier comment was intended with tongue firmly planted in cheek...
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Just took some photos of the SPS Cantabria in Sydney.
What a good looking ship she is.It was docked at Chowder Bay.
The ship will be around for a few more days.
Makes HMAS Success look like and old hag

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Nice pics mate, thanks for posting, she certainly would put Success to shame, no doubt the ships company would have used a lot of polish on the way to get her looking good.

I wonder if the Spanish Government and shipbuilders are now sweating the result of the Federal Election now that this arrangement is in place ?

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Very nice pics, thanks!!.
Great scenery,
I understand Cantabria is going to be based at Sidney, is that finger part of a bigger base? . Please excuse my ignorance, I was just thinking about refueling and re-storing and vehicle access and all those things.
Could you post a google location, thanks
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Blas de Lezo i am not sure if this is where Cantabria will be based,one of the Naval guys would know better than me.I took the photos from Chowder bay ,the wharf is "The Naval refuelling wharf" ,owned by NAVY (RAN),but the rest of the area is public land that was handed back to the Harbour trust.

I am assuming Fleet Base East is were she would be kept if staying in Sydney??

http://www.harbourtrust.gov.au/docs/...howder-bay.pdf

I was trying to upload photos to the Defence talk "Pictures section(Spanish navy)," but don't think i can???
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Thank you Road Runner, very helpful
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Blas de Lezo i am not sure if this is where Cantabria will be based,one of the Naval guys would know better than me.I took the photos from Chowder bay ,the wharf is "The Naval refuelling wharf" ,owned by NAVY (RAN),but the rest of the area is public land that was handed back to the Harbour trust.

I am assuming Fleet Base East is were she would be kept if staying in Sydney??

http://www.harbourtrust.gov.au/docs/...howder-bay.pdf

I was trying to upload photos to the Defence talk "Pictures section(Spanish navy)," but don't think i can???
That looked like a refuelling wharf. Cantabria was also flying a red flag so I would say she was refuelling. The "No Smoking" signs were out
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Yep Chowder Bay is a refuelling wharf.Just a few more pics i went a bit trigger happy

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Cantabria is expected to berth at Fleet Base East, in Potts Point Sydney, alongside the Eastern fleet which includes HMAS Success. She will be utilised for a variety of excercises through out the year(hoping to see her during one later on, although we wont refuel from her as we use a garden hose on Patrol boats compared to probe refuelling) before capping off with International Fleet Review and a more then likely purchase by governement regardless of whos running the show(im tipping announcement before september 14...just saying)
If and when we do purchase Cantabria it will only extend our problems with refuellers, the RAN requires 2 new AOR to replace Success and Sirius in the one go, and if we go with Cantabria then we are buying 2nd hand, and will either order a new ship of same class, or entirely new design. This has many flaws and will be mishandled by someone involved in the chain.
A new order of 2 Cantabria class, or call Sth Korea and add on to the order for the RFA of MARS tankers would be the smart option right now, as time is critical. Regardless of spin and assuarances, HMAS Success will not make it to 2014 let alone 2016....
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