This is a discussion on Indian Navy (IN) News and Discussion within the Navy & Maritime forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; hmmm officially, they refuses to say they upgraded the systems of these boats.
shhhh......
seems india will be acquiring 3 more krivak-3's(hope these are the more advanced variants of the original 3),seems india is satisfied with original three.
Last year, Baltiisky completed the delivery of three frigates to India under a 1997 contract for nearly $1 billion. Now, the Indians are interested in ordering three more, Tsyplakov said, indicating that the April agreement with Severnaya may be moot after the change in ownership.
"About a month ago, [arms export agency] Rosoboronexport received a draft contract for three more frigates in which Baltiisky Zavod is identified as the contractor," Tsyplakov said.
The Federal Industry Agency is now deciding which facility -- Baltiisky or Severnaya -- will get the more than $1 billion contract, he said.
The OPK deal falls in line with government plans to combine assets in the defense industry into holdings.
Boris Alyoshin, head of the Federal Industry Agency, said last week that the government was considering setting up two shipping holdings: one to unite submarine makers; the other, surface-ship manufacturers. At the time, Alyoshin said the surface-ship holding would be created on the basis of Severnaya and Baltiisky.
It was not clear on Sunday whether Oleg Shulyakovsky would keep his post as Baltiisky's general director, though Tsyplakov said "he will be useful to OPK, especially in view of the [upcoming] contract with India."
the deal was for 3 ships and 3 options(i beleive the second 3 will be more advanced than the first 3 since russia has claimed to have offered a further improved variant for the russian navy).
Senior officials told FE that the Cabinet would clear the $2 billion deal shortly as a prelude to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s three-day visit to France from September 11, on his way to New York next month.
The submarines will be built at the state-owned Mazagon dockyard in Mumbai, with technical assistance and equipment from French companies. The submarines are to be delivered between 2010 and 2015. As part of the deal, the submarines would be armed with EADS SM-39 Exocet anti-ship missiles.
However, Naval headquarters is worried that its fleet, “particularly the submarine strike armâ€, was de-commissioning vessels faster than it can acquire them. “We have waited long, too long actually,†said the chief of naval staff, Admiral Arun Prakash, when asked about the proposal to acquire the Scorpene submarines.
The Cabinet committee on security is expected to meet later this week to discuss the proposal on Scorpene submarines, that had been cleared by naval headquarters nearly a year back. India has been in negotiations with France to acquire and jointly develop six 1,500-tonne Scorpene submarines at the Mazagon docks. Sources in the defence ministry said that there has been indication that the deal had currently been put on hold due to comments of the French ambassador in India, Dominique Girard, on the Airbus deal.
L&T plans manufacture of big ships
Our Corporate Bureau / Mumbai August 27, 2005
Engineering and construction major Larsen & Toubro is planning to build large ships —a business till now monopolised by South Korean and Japanese companies. Addressing shareholders at the company’s 60th annual general meeting today, L&T Chairman and Managing Director AM Naik said, “Ship-building can become one of the focus areas of the company. L&T is now into production of submarines and small vessels. There is good potential for big ship-building activity across the world. China is also trying to start building ships in a big way.†But he said a final decision on this was yet to be taken. “The company is confident of doing good in this area of business, considering its high-calibre engineering skills,†Naik said. Alongside, the company will consider the consolidation of its special purpose vehicles (SPVs) through which international projects were executed. L&T has strategised its growth plans—christened Lakshya— for five years beginning 2005. Under the plan, it targets generating $6 billion in revenues in the next five years. More than 25 per cent of this revenue were expected to be made through the company’s international projects, he said. Along with the engineering and construction projects, L&T will bid for strategic sectors like defence aerospace and nuclear.
L&T now producing submarines, does this mean L&T are constructing 2 or more ATVs simultaneously [/QUO
their plan was to jointly develop the russian amur1650 submarines with kirloskar marine engines at hazira.
by the way check this article it's got some realy great information on the p28 stealth corvettes,the submarine programme and the aircraft carrier.
Severnoye Design Bureau officials confirmed that the IN's Project 28 ASW corvette will be derived from the Bureau's Project 20382 design. The Bureau is closely cooperating with the IN's Directorate of Naval Design and Weapons Engineering & Electronics Systems Engineering Establishment (WEESEE), and state-owned Garden Reach Shipbuilding & Engineering to produce detailed engineering drawings using TRIBON CAD/CAM software. The six planned Project
28 vessels will each displace 1,800 tonnes, have a length of 94 metres, beamwidth of 13 metres and a draught of 3.5 metres. Its CODAG propulsion system, comprising twin gas turbines, twin diesel engines and twin diesel generators will drive two-shaft, controllable-pitch propellers. The corvette will have a maximum speed of 27 Knots, range of 4,000nm, endurance of 15 days and a crew compliment of 85. The helicopter deck will be able to house either the dipping sonar-equipped Ka-28PL or Naval Dhruv. The armaments package will comprise one eight-cell vertical launcher for Novator-built
3M-54E Klub-N 220km-range supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles (identical to the ones on board the IN's three Project 1135.6 FFGs), 3R60-UM fire-control system, Garpun Bal-E surface target engagement radar, one OTOBreda 76/62 main gun, twin 12-barrelled RBU-6000 ASW mortar launchers, twin 324mm ILAS triple-tube torpedo launchers for launching Franco-Italian Eurotorp-built MU-90 lightweight torpedoes, and one 16-cell Barak-1 VLS anti-missile defence system with twin EL/M-2221 STGR target illuminators. On-board mission sensors will include the indigenous DRDO/LRDE-developed L-band Central Acquisition Radar, Kelvin Hughes Nucleus-2 6000A navigation radar, an ultra low-frequency active/passive towed array sonar, towed torpedo decoy, and a close-in decoy system with four chaff/flare decoy launchers
the klubs also have antisubmarine capability.
you know it would be better if india went for the hdw214 class of submarine they seem to be miles ahead of the scorpene and also their offer is more attractive.
well here is some interesting news(i believe it belongs here).
Arms-laden ship detained
Kolkata port authorities in touch with Indonesia
KOLKATA: : A cargo vessel carrying arms, ammunition and a large quantity of explosives headed for Indonesia has been detained by the Kolkata Port Trust authorities at the Kidderpore docks following a request from the local customs authorities.
The customs authorities had sought time to check on details concerning the delivery of the consignment before allowing MV Eugenia to leave the berthing docks, Anup Kumar Chanda, Chairman, Kolkata Port Trust, told The Hindu here on Sunday.
The matter has been referred to the customs authorities in New Delhi who will be seeking a confirmation regarding the delivery of the consignment from the Indonesian officials concerned. The vessel, registered in the Honduras, arrived at the Kidderpore docks last week and was to have set sail on Friday.
UNI reports:
Official sources said, ``the vessel has been carrying arms, ammunition and 20 tonnes of explosives. It's a huge consignment and a serious matter. Unless Indonesian authorities inform us that this consignment is meant for them, we cannot allow the vessel to leave the Kidderpore docks."
``The vessel was still unloading iron pipes brought from Romania and it may take a couple of more days to complete it,'' they added. Sources in the Kolkata Port Trust said the ship had been taking a long time to unload the iron pipes because only one crane was being used. The vessel also developed a hole on Saturday and the crewmembers were busy repairing it.
so what do you guys think will the vessel be confisticated or released,this is the second such incident in the last 12 years ,last time it was a north korean vessel carrying surface to surface missile parts which was captured after a raid at haldia port and the vessel and the cargo were confisticated(they listed the cargo as sugar,which was found to be missile parts and blueprints hindden in a false compartment).
The Sindhugosh diesel-electric Kilo-class submarine was brought to Russia's Zvyozdochka shipyards for planned repairs in 2002 and is due to be turned over to the Indian navy in late October, Zvyozdochka's officials said late on Monday.
As part of the upgrading, the sub had been equipped with a new Club-S anti-ship missile unit, and had its hydro-acoustic equipment and combat control and navigation systems upgraded.
Two other Indian subs, Sindhuratna and Sindhuvir, had already been repaired at Zvyozdochka and another, Sindhuvijai, is next in line.
Reuters Posted online: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 1919 hours IST
Paris, September 6: India has ordered six submarines developed by a group of French and Spanish companies in a deal worth 2.4 billion euros, newspaper La Tribune reported on its web site on Tuesday.
order for Scorpene submarines will generate revenue of 1.2 billion euros for Armaris, a unit of French shipbuilder DCN and defence electronics group Thales, the paper said.
Officials at Thales were not immediately available for comment, but a DCN spokeswoman cautioned that "the Indian government had not notified Armaris of its approval".
