This is a discussion on Argentinian blockade of the falklands within the Navy & Maritime forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; The UN has already told them to go away, nicely diplomatically of course, according to the radio this morn....
good to see the obama admin backing us up on this..,.,.not!
i really wish the uk govt would try to remember the u.s attitude towards us the next time we enter into a pointless war at their side........
as far as im aware we finally paid back our lend lease debt from the second world war and im really not sure what benefits we receive for licking ass nowadays?
It is annoying but at the same time it wasn't in the British interest to make this any bigger than it was. I wouldn't be surprised if the Foreign Office preferred the US and EU not to get involved at the moment.
Hopefully the Argentinan government have sated their public demand for tough action, Chavez has enjoyed his daily opportunity to berate the evil west and everyone can just get on with things as normal.
not lose the job, just have to pay more taxes.
now what we are afraid of Gibraltar is the new law that the EU wants to apply the prohibition, I think that apart from 2011, that there is any kind of tax havens in Europe.
What is clear is that it is an area of convenience, since the majority of Gibraltarians living in Spain, enter gibraltar morning for work and then return home in Cadiz ...
this also make the Spanish ...
No, they wouldn't just have to pay more tax. Most, if not all, the Gibraltar based companies are only making a profit because they don't have to pay tax. If you remove that advantage, they'll either go down or have to do some drastic reorganizing. Either way a lot of Spaniards are going to loose their job. And given the economic situation in Andalusia at the moment, they are unlikely to find another one.
Also, the Gibraltarians (IE people with a Gibraltarian (SP?) passport) live in Gibraltar. The ones you are talking about are the Spanish workers who go there to work during the day.
Places like La Linea de Conception will implode since as much as 90% of the working population works in Gibraltar.
So unless you can find a politician willing to run for election with the slogan "I'll put 40,000 people out of their jobs!" it's never going to happen.
I don't see a Falklands War 2. And I think the British will have their way at the end of the day. The people/settlers in the islands would be key.[/QUOTE]
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Yea, you are probably right, but if oil is found and the UK makes billions of $$$, this might bring more Chavez like leaders to power in LA. They can point and say look the English are stealing our resources…imperialism!!! …..Etc….. They may even get to Obama by saying where is the change? What happen to Yes We Can? It’s best for Argentina to play the victim.
I just came up with the solution to the Falkland crisis and it’s not a military one, nor is it political, it’s more social. Every male on the island has to marry an Argentine woman and every female on the island has to marry an Argentine male. I’ve never been to Argentina, but from what I heard they are a very good looking people. So with the marriages the Falkland will be ruled 50/50 and all profits are share 50/50.
Places like La Linea de Conception will implode since as much as 90% of the working population works in Gibraltar. .
Firstly: there are no 'places like La Linea de Concepcion'. It's unique. It owes its existence to the presence of Gibraltar.
Secondly, the population of La Linea is 64000, but only 4000 of them (fewer than in 1969, a third of the number in the 1950s) work in Gibraltar, & another 2000 or so are reckoned to derive a living from it. I doubt that the total workforce is only 10% of the population. That 4000 is about a third of the workforce of Gibraltar, which has a population of 28000 or so. Back in the 1950s, Spaniards were a large majority of the workforce. Nowadays, there are also Gibraltarians working in Spain, so there are commuters both ways.
Interestingly, the current number of workers is roughly the population of Gibraltar before the British conquest - and that population almost all moved out.
Ok this is what should happen, Britain gives the Falklands to Argentina and Gibraltar to Spain, and Spain give the two cities in Morocco back to Morocco, Jerusalem is then divided into thirds, 1/3for the Jews. 1/3 for the Christians, and 1/3 to the Muslims, Taiwan goes back to China, Hawaii gets independence and Alaska goes back to Russia.
Then we shall have peace in our time……
Well, strictly speaking, wouldn't it be more of China goes back to Taiwan, rather than the other way around?
Is there any chance of the British offering Argentina some of the oil revenues currently?
Firstly: there are no 'places like La Linea de Concepcion'. It's unique. It owes its existence to the presence of Gibraltar.
Secondly, the population of La Linea is 64000, but only 4000 of them (fewer than in 1969, a third of the number in the 1950s) work in Gibraltar, & another 2000 or so are reckoned to derive a living from it. I doubt that the total workforce is only 10% of the population. That 4000 is about a third of the workforce of Gibraltar, which has a population of 28000 or so. Back in the 1950s, Spaniards were a large majority of the workforce. Nowadays, there are also Gibraltarians working in Spain, so there are commuters both ways.
Interestingly, the current number of workers is roughly the population of Gibraltar before the British conquest - and that population almost all moved out.
besides that I know of friends who live in Cadiz, Gibraltar and not fit, is only 6 kilometers a rock ...
and the line of the design is one of the poorest areas of Spain and Cadiz is cheap in all aspects, so many Gibraltarians choose to buy a house in Cadiz and then make his life in Gibraltar.
sorry for all brit lovers, but the time is over, we are not in the 17.th century. Argentina has every right to claim sovereignty. If there are rich oil deposits over there, I believe poor people of argentina should benefit this too.
The Argentines have zero legitimate claims over the Falklands, if anything it’s the Spanish who have the only legal case here. It makes me laugh to hear the Argentine Government bang on about the Imperialist / Colonial Brit’s, when 80% of Argentines population comes from Spanish Imperialist / Colonial stock!
The only people who have any say in the current crisis are the Falkland Islanders themselves – end of story. Oil revenue could make them financially independent of either Britain and/or Argentina to make there own decisions about sovereignty.
