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Old July 26th, 2007   #31
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http://www.geo.tv/geonews/details.asp?id=9330&param=1

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan successfully test-fired Hataf –VII cruise missile of Babur series on Thursday.

The missile has a range of 700 kilometers and capable of carrying multiple warheads.

Hataf-VII can be fired from Agosta submarine and fighter jets F-16 and F-17.

President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz have congratulated the scientists and engineers on successful missile test.

Dr. Samar Mubarakmand was the chief guest on the occasion of the missile test. Senior military officials of SSG Force regional command were also present at the occasion.

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Not to sure about some of the claims but just posted it to let u know that it was tested yet again today.
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Yes and there mustbe some improvements in this one as compared to the one which is tested in the beginning of this year.
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Old July 26th, 2007   #33
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Yes and there mustbe some improvements in this one as compared to the one which is tested in the beginning of this year.
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u r absolutely right

the latest babur is an improvement over it's last avatar.

this one has a range of 700km & testing is on to further improve the range to 1000-km.

the terrain hugging capability makes the babur -II particularly dangerous, as it can evade radar with utmost ease.


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. the terrain hugging capability makes the babur -II particularly dangerous, as it can evade radar with utmost ease.
Ahem! Thats what most cruise missiles do! Avoid Radar.

Coming to the article posted by P.A.F, it seems that unsubstantiated claims are being made. The Agostas cannot carry Babur and there has been no effort thus far to integrate the Babur with the aircraft in PAF's inventory as yet.
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I agree with mysterious, subs can either fire cruise missiles by sufacing and deployin firing platforms on the main hull or they can fire when suubmerged, i.e from vertical pods on the submarine. Such major modifications to the Agosta have not appeared in news anywhere.
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Well PAF and PN have to spent on much urgent priorities. As far as the integration of BABUR goes there is definitely the possibility and capability to do so in the future. Fact is PAF uses H-1,2 etc and Exocet along with PN which use both Exocet and Harpoon Blk2. So right now they donot need cm s urgently. Once Babur has considerable range and we have new patforms in service such as JF-17, J-10 and f-16s then we will no doubt see this CM integrated with those aircrafts and new subs which are also in the pipeline. So yes right now they are focusing on the missile and its capabilities itseld rather than the integration but point is that this is a long term GOAL which they will never overlook .
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with the induction of babur, pakistan must master the art of the High-low Technique to counter the indian barak.

the high-low technique , where one missile is fired high to distract radar while the other fired low, to sink the ship, may be used against all such systems such as Barak, Phalanx, etc.

such a technique can be extremely effective with cruise missiles that are radar or optically guided & is deadly against naval targets.

the 'Barak' system is not as effective as first thought. it's short range is a major handicap against advanced cruise-missiles like the babur,

this point can be proved by the recent incident of the Ahi-Hanit , where the barak proved ineffective.

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Smile Pakistan To Test New Missiles In September And October

Pakistan to accelerate nuclear program:

ISLAMABAD: After the finalization of nuclear deal between India and the United States, Pakistan has decided to accelerate the development of its nuclear and missile program and President Pervez Musharraf and the government in this regard have issued directives to the scientists and engineers of the country.


Military sources said that Pakistan in the time to come would continue the testing of new missiles.

Reliable sources further told Online that in the meeting of National Command and Control Authority, the matter of disturbance of strategic balance after Indo-US deal was discussed in detail and it was decided that Pakistan would continue the development of its nuclear and missile programme.

The work on Khushab reactor would be speedup while new nuclear reactors would also be installed which number in range of four to five.

Sources told that the government of Pakistan has rejected any US pressure in this regard and clarified that it would take all necessary steps to ensure its solidarity, defence and sovereignty and the strategic balance in the region would be maintained at all costs.

The acquiring of latest technology would also be ensured and President General Pervez Musharraf in this regard has given go-ahead to Pakistani scientists aiming to continue the development of Pakistan nuclear and missile programme.The new missile tests would be held in September and October in which both ballistic and cruise missile would be tested and through these tests the strategic ability of Pakistan would be enhanced.
Pakistan would also acquire assistance from countries having latest technology aiming to meet its increasing energy needs.


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great news !!

this calls for celebration !!

by the way any news on the plutonium tipped warheads, which were being designed to fit into the 21-inch launch tubes of the U-214 ???

please update if possible.
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Cruise Missile Test

Pakistan shortly conducted the test of another cruise missile Hatf 8 which has a range of 350 km and canbe launched through the air and sea.
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Pakistan Tests 'New' Cruise Missile

Pakistan has successfully test-fired a new cruise missile capable of carrying nuclear weapons, its military said.

The missile, named Hatf-VIII (or Raad, "thunder" in Arabic), has a range of 350km (220 miles), and can carry all types of warheads, a statement said.

Pakistan and its neighbour India - both nuclear powers - routinely carry out missile tests.

Tension between Pakistan and India has decreased in recent months amid a series of bilateral overtures.

The missile "has been designed exclusively for launch from a variety of Pakistan's air platforms, providing these with a strategic stand-off capability on land and at sea," the Pakistani military said.

"The Raad can carry all types of warheads and has an accuracy comparable to Pakistan's longer Babar cruise missile," the statement said.

The Babar or Hatf-VII missile, which was tested in March, has a range of 700km (430 miles).

In February, Pakistan test-fired a nuclear-capable, surface-to-surface Hatf VI missile, with a much longer range of 2,000 km (1,250 miles).

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This certainly is a welcomed development though it certainly has been a well kept secret. Not much was known about this 'Raad' cruise missile since everyone pretty much focused on the 'Babur'.

So according to BBC's report, this new cruise missile has a range of only 350Km, which is half of Babur's. That seems odd since, with Babur, Pakistan already has a 700Km capability, UNLESS, the alterations to make it launch from PAF's platforms factored in, in lowering the range?

Is this still sub-sonic? Any news on whether Pakistan is concentrating on super-sonic cruise missiles at all to counter Brahmos?
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Pakistan Successfully testfires Air Launched Cruise Missile Hatf-8

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Saturday successfully test-fired a new Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) named Hatf-8 (Ra’ad)).

The indigenously developed Ra’ad (meaning “Thunder” in Arabic), with a range of 350 KMs for now, has been designed exclusively for launch from a variety of Pakistan’s air Platforms, providing these with a strategic stand off capability of land and at sea.

The missile has a low detection probability due to stealth design and materials used in its manufacturing. The Ra’ad can carry all types of warheads and has an accuracy comparable to Pakistan’s longer Babur cruise missile.



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Seems that this new cruise missile is Air version of Babur. It would be interesting to know which aircraft was used to for the test.
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Well the Geo news reported that it is Air lauched cruise missile, so it must have been tested through one of PAFs platforms.
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Ra'ad was launched by a Mirage ROSE-I - Link

Ra'ad similar in design and concept to the MBDA Storm Shadow/Black Shaheen. A few more years of development, we may see a Ra'ad block on par in performance, technology and stealth with the MBDA Storm Shadow.
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That's very impressive. I bet it's using the same guidance as Babur as it wouldn't make sense to develop a completely different system for this version. This is a significant stand-off weapon that enables a capable platform to fire the missile from a safe distance and head back to base immediately. I'd say that for now, only PAF's F-16 can carry something as heavy as Ra'ad (I'm guessing it's at least 1000 kg). The missile itself is probably very similar to Babur except it carries much less fuel. Also, I think it'll be launched at subsonic speeds and have hi-lo flight profile.

Congratulations to Pakistan, I admire the country's sceintific potential and technological self-reliance.
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