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Ideas for a military fiction story that i am writing?

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Old January 20th, 2012   #1
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Ideas for a military fiction story that i am writing?

Encountered a problem while writing the other due to supplies and equipment so i have to start on a blank slate..

I am possibly thinking of writing a 2 part story that covers time travel within a military group, based on the movie The Final Countdown where the Nimitz supercarrier, out on a training exercise in 1980 is transported together with several F-14A Tomcats and a E2C Hawkeye back to Pearl Harbour in WW2 after inadvertedly passing through a strange phenomenal storm.The crew realise it is 1940 and the Japanese are planning the attack on Pearl Harbour, debating whether to use the power of the Nimitz to quell the attacking Japanese fleet and change the course of history but are transported back to the present before they can eradicate the Japanese fleet

Much like the movie, i would like to focus on a detachment of combined armed forces task force from the US army deploying to defend against a chinese invasion of north vietnam in 2020 While engaging targets in vietnam and is transported back to the 1960's vietnam war. Instead of holding back, i would like to go all out, defending South vietnam from the North Vietnam invasion and maybe even toying with the idea of an invasion of the North. What would be the most feasible units that could be used?

I also have a possible problem regarding supplies.. Would there be a problem regarding supply replenishment in friendly bases(ammunition)? What would be the most likely equipment list ?

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ps: Would this make a good movie plot as well? :s13:

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You have nothing there that is of relevance in the kind of war they had in 1960's except better trained personnel and slightly more refined weapons. Nothing world shaking.

The Viet Cong are operating in triple canopy jungle, so your reconnaissance assets are largely nullified. They have no tanks, so the AT weapons lack targets. Because of the ground conditions the M-48’s lower ground pressure makes it a superior choice to the M-60 or M-1. Only the m-2 and M-3 offer an advantage because they can be armored against RPG.

The US already has suficient aircraft. Your precision munitions are better for many jobs, but what are your targets? You lack cluster bombs and most of the targets are infantry.

Maybe in the 1975 invasion of Saigon you could make a difference, however you would also be violating Presidential directives not to get involved.
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Hello and great Idea.
I see your biggest problem in this story being one of logistical support. As much of the ammunition, and maintenance for many of the weapons just was not available in the 60's and 70's. I only see, from my personal opinion, that if the whole "base of operation" was transported back with all the units. I can suggest an idea to make that happen. Being this original start point is in the 2020 range. The Chinese version of a HAARP like facility, used against such base of operation and transporting it back in time. A new location for the base, that was only a barren stretch of rice patties during the Vietnam war. With all on sight logistical support available for at least a minimum duration period of operations. May I also suggest one of the many islands located off the coast of Vietnam as a good location for this place. This way you can include both naval base and airfield. As far as future replenishment, may I suggest the use of a "secret" CIA factory, along the lines of a Lockheed Skunk Works, that has all the 60's era manufacturing, smelting , etc to reverse engineer and sustain ammunition supply, as well as have the ability to modify the Vietnam era weapons for use on the newer aircraft and armor. Remember, fact is usually stranger than fiction, and a slight twist to the possible and a little "maybe" makes it all work. Just look at a Tom Clancy novel.

Sorry for all the run on sentences and half thoughts. Writing and expressing myself is not one of my strong suits.

Good luck!
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I also do not see why any of these weapons listed would not be a "game changer". I sight the War in Iraq in 1991, 2003 and current anti insurgency tactics and weapons deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan as real life examples. Being that this is taking place in the 2020 time frame, I'm sure these will have matured much further. The NVA and Viet Cong , engaged in a insurgent/guerrilla warfare.
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Have to say, is there any particular reason to create 2 more threads when you could have just continued the first one you started? I mean the base-line from both threads seems pretty much the same except the time period (at least, to me its that simple anyway) Hell they're even worded the same

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Much like the movie, i would like to focus on a detachment of combined armed forces from the Singapore Army deploying to a nearby country in naval waters on a training exercise who are transported back to January 1942, a month before the Japanese invasion of Singapore.Instead of holding back, i would like to go all out, defending Singapore from the Japanese invasion and maybe even toying with the idea of an invasion with Japan. What would be the most feasible units that could be used?
Thats the 'original' so to speak, then there is the new one

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Much like the movie, i would like to focus on a detachment of combined armed forces task force from the US army deploying to defend against a chinese invasion of north vietnam in 2020 While engaging targets in vietnam and is transported back to the 1960's vietnam war. Instead of holding back, i would like to go all out, defending South vietnam from the North Vietnam invasion and maybe even toying with the idea of an invasion of the North. What would be the most feasible units that could be used?
To me it just seems weird, for 2 passages pitching storylines to be almost exactly the same for wording. Take that how you will, but it just strikes me as 'odd'

Not counting the original thread, 2 more have since been started by yourself in this section of the forum and the only difference between them is this one has a 'kit list' of sorts and the other one does not, just seems a bit unneccesary thats all.

Unless my browsers having a brain fart that is.
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