Force on Force Training with these?

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rap4asia

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Will force on force training be more effective with less lethal equipments which still represent the true feel and form of a rifle, outputs the real feel and receive the real impact but still being able to be alive?
 

Quiller

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Will force on force training be more effective with less lethal equipments which still represent the true feel and form of a rifle, outputs the real feel and receive the real impact but still being able to be alive?
American law enforcement and military trainers are using "the cage" to roughly simulate a bullet strike without permanent injury on participants. It is mostly used in small engagement scenarios where all the weapons and kits can effectively communicate with the central operating system and software. Basically the weapons fire beams that are detected on sensors on vests. The key addition is a group or "cage" of electrodes attached to the torso that deliver a Taser-style electrical shock to the electrode closest to the probable hit. The shock delivers pain and weakness instantaneously, and sometimes is enough to make the target collapse or partially collapse. There are several different versions of these systems out there. Their value is they instill cover and concealment without having to use paintball or similar physical systems.
 

My2Cents

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Will force on force training be more effective with less lethal equipments which still represent the true feel and form of a rifle, outputs the real feel and receive the real impact but still being able to be alive?
Depends. The main requirements is that the system cannot incapacitate the target individual such that he cannont immediately proceed with more training. An impact causing a continuously painful bruise is probably too much. Likewise pepper balls or similar effects.

As for look and feel of the weapon, there are already a number of simulator designs on the market.
 

Waylander

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And what do you do to somebody who is in the vicinity of a simulated arty or tank gun impact?

Send electro spasms through his entire body? The same goes for a vehicle crew with a fatal penetration.

I for one think that the systems which are in service like MILES or AGDUS are good enough. The beep sound when you are hit makes it obvious enough that one would be dead if this was the real world. And it is much easier to include a much bigger magnitude of combined arms training.

Even infantry training is seldom about infantrymen fighting it out with ARs and MGs...

[Mod edit: Thread closed, as rap4asia is just using this topic to promote his company's products. See the other closed thread, where he promotes 'Less Lethal Projectile/ Smart Rounds'.]
 
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