Originally Posted by redsoulja

DSJ what are you talking about, are you out of your ignorant euro-centric racist mind, the Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Indus Valley and the Chinese were the First four great civilizations, heck when the Asians and Africans had such advanced cultures with massive literature, cities, large collosal buildings Europe simply consisted of barbaric nomadic tribes that were extremely primitive, other than Stonehenge there is very little great feats that teh Europeans committed. The Europeans only ruled the world because they were much more efficient at perpetrating violence against the rest of the world. They did not rule because of their religion, culture, history, or literature, they ruled with the gun. All the great religions were founded in Asia and Africa not Europe.I am not saying Europeans are the only violent ones, I'm just saying everyone can be violent for it is in the human nature. To assume that one group of humans is superior to other s is purely ignorance, and even when you look at the facts, the great civilizations before Greece were all African or Asian. And the west isn't modest today as no human civilization at its peak was ever modest, there are always exceptions. About Mongols being violent, what about the slavery of over 20 million African human beings? What about the millions of dead vietnamese? What about the numerous authoritarian regimes that the West has propped all over the rest of the world in order to maintain economic and geopolitical superiority, the very same regimes who have prevented the natural rise of democracy? These regimes prevent the developing world form achieving the same revolutions that the West achieved earlier. Webs i am sorry if i got a bit out of hand, this guy's racial ignorance just got my blood boiling!!!

Originally Posted by redsoulja

DSJ what are you talking about, are you out of your ignorant euro-centric racist mind, the Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Indus Valley and the Chinese were the First four great civilizations, heck when the Asians and Africans had such advanced cultures with massive literature, cities, large collosal buildings Europe simply consisted of barbaric nomadic tribes that were extremely primitive, other than Stonehenge there is very little great feats that teh Europeans committed. The Europeans only ruled the world because they were much more efficient at perpetrating violence against the rest of the world. They did not rule because of their religion, culture, history, or literature, they ruled with the gun. All the great religions were founded in Asia and Africa not Europe.I am not saying Europeans are the only violent ones, I'm just saying everyone can be violent for it is in the human nature. To assume that one group of humans is superior to other s is purely ignorance, and even when you look at the facts, the great civilizations before Greece were all African or Asian. And the west isn't modest today as no human civilization at its peak was ever modest, there are always exceptions. About Mongols being violent, what about the slavery of over 20 million African human beings? What about the millions of dead vietnamese? What about the numerous authoritarian regimes that the West has propped all over the rest of the world in order to maintain economic and geopolitical superiority, the very same regimes who have prevented the natural rise of democracy? These regimes prevent the developing world form achieving the same revolutions that the West achieved earlier. Webs i am sorry if i got a bit out of hand, this guy's racial ignorance just got my blood boiling!!!

Originally Posted by adsH

I would attribute your Comments as mere ignorance; No one just appreciates other peoples Achievements without a cause. The Asians were civilized too, Middle East is the Birth Place of Civilization in-fact the City of Babylon the Birth Place of Civilization Located in Now Iraq. Your Spanner Comments don't seam to include the Hindu Civilization Which predates Any Significant Recorded History. Your comments don't indicate the Achievements by the Islamic Spain, Achievements that above all included, multicultural welfare society, Ship Building Sea Faring Navies and Trading across the world, there achievements in Modern Medicine like Anesthetics, The Word Algebra comes from the Egypt where the Whole concept of Modern Moths was formed, if you had studied Math’s then you would known that the Arabic Mathematical symbols were adopted into the Roman Symbols, which still is by far the Best ever produced. You don't seam to actually point out the Strives made by the Various Jewish Empires of the Time in the Vicinity of Jerusalem. Your comments don't indicate the Welfare culture the Spanish/ Othman and the Indian Mughal (Not Mongol, Mongolians). The Architectural wonders that were developed by Iranians like the Taj Mahel in India. Your Sheer Lack of appreciation of these cultures is just appalling. Go and read more then just one bias textbook. It’s the Duty of a historian to Record and Analyze History in the most Accurate manner, Unfortunately there are some that never choose to Honor this Tradition. This is a plague to humanity, because if we don’t record history as accurately possible then we only condemn our future generations to make those same mistakes again. Lessons lesson’s From the Past Yielded “United Nations�, a cooperation that would prevent War and Allow Nations to discuss there problems rather then Fight out the Dispute.

Originally Posted by redsoulja

Adsh yeah i agree completely that they have had great civs but that does not give him the right to be ignorant posting such crap, specifically when the Middle East was the cradle of civilization.
Just because millions of Americans and British buy book about Western superiority doesnt necessarily mean the West is greater than the rest. And I also don't agree with this author.

Originally Posted by dsj

It's not right to call someone's posts crap. I no longer have the time to argue with you. Go to victor hanson's site and argue with him and join the angry readers. I think you are one of what he calls "Islamicist" If you are one, I'm not interested in hearing your fanatical aggression.

Originally Posted by srirangan

Originally Posted by srirangan

That can be easily disputed. Pictography ended with the Pharoh's BC.

Originally Posted by adsH

Originally Posted by PJ-10 BrahMos

greatest Empire in history got to be the Romans, it spanned from Eastern europe, England, west europe, greece, and parts of the middle east and northern africa