Originally Posted by Lucasnz
New Zealand's focus on frigates is historical and fails to reflect changes in sensors and weapons. For example the Anti Air capability on the Leanders (even updated with improved Fire Control, CWIS & Sensors like Canterbury) is more than surpassed by ships like the German K130, equipped with RAM. NZ could acheive today with a corvette outfitted ship (Size being determined by sea keeping & endurance) what it use to acheive with Frigates. I think frigates have their place in the RNZN (As command and area survellience vessels) but NZ needs to way cost, against numbers and right now we don't have the numbers, even with Project Protector, to deal with our own security issues and that of the wider region.
Wow this thread sounds familiar... Moving along though...
I would like to see the NZDF arranged as follows
3 upgraded Anzac frigates (3rd MEKO 200 hull built in Europe kitted in Aus/NZ)
2 upgraded Anzacs plus
2-4 K130-type corvettes, though with Mk 48 or 54 VLS for ESSM
2 Upgunned OPV (57mm should suffice with mini-Typhoons)
1 JSS-style AOR/LOLO vessel
4 upgunned IPV (25mm)
2+ MCM/patrol/training vessels w/25mm+ gun and SAM (mistral?)
1 MRV (HMNZS Canterbury) with mini-typhoons
formation of an SBS unit or combat dive team
For the RNZN, I'm not sure whether another frigate or a few corvettes are better. Having more corvettes would allow greater potential striking power around NZ, but I'm not sure that they would be able to match the Anzacs in terms of seakeeping and range. For the OPV, I don't see real value in mounting a 76mm since they wouldn't be used as warships. However, something with greater range and more effective against civilian shipping for emergencies would be sensible, especially if there isn't room in the hangar to carry munitions for the Seasprite. The rest more or less follows as expected additions or upgrades.
Reactivation of the MB-339 for pilot training, as well as army & navy training
P-3K upgrade of ASW equipment and addition of standoff AShM
Upgrade of Seasprite for ASW role
NFH-90 version for use aboard the Anzacs
Addition of Q300 sized MPA/training aircraft
AAR role for Boeing 757 (or replacement with A330 MRTT like the RAAF)
C-130H replaced/augmented with KC-130J
Getting into a slightly unrealistic area...
JAS39 Gripen (with upgraded engine) and/or
F-35 JSF once it starts being fielded
Addition of an IMV to forces
Addition and/or replacement of NZLAV with an actual IFV
tracked 120mm AMOS
radar queued Mistral
replace 105mm howitzers with 155mm SP with advanced/guided munitions
armoured engineering equipment
expansion of NZSAS