General African Defense discussion
Australian SASR are operating in Africa.
Interesting to see that Australia has involved itself against the fight against extremists in Africa. Hopefully it will help bring some measure of stability to this troubled region.
In other news, most of us are aware of this Kony 2012 campaign going on ( started by an NGO that supports a corrupt government against a warlord who is no longer in power or holds any influence in Uganda ), it seems like the government will be taking action :
I don't want to offend anyone by giving my political views on this NGO and the whole Kony movement, but it seems like US military presence and influence are set to increase in Africa in the near future. How it militarily benefits operations against Al-Quaeda cells and extremism/tyranny in the region is yet to be seen.
Foreign Office advises Britons to leave Mali as rebels capture main northern town of Gao - Telegraph
Things are heating up in Mali. Rebels are attacking and capturing key cities, including Timbuktu, while the new leaders after the coup have re-established the constitution.
Meanwhile in the background, the Pentagon's Africa Command (AFRICOM) is gaining acceptance through involvement in joint training and capacity building activities with a wide variety of countries - http://www.defenceweb.co.za/?searchw...ion=com_search
This is a reversal of the "epic fail" of their initial launch, when they were basically condemned by most African countries as an instrument of American "neo-colonialism" - The People of Africa Reject AFRICOM - A U.S. Bid for Military Dominance (Updated) | Africa |Axisoflogic.com
You need to evaluate the bias of your sources.
The articles on DefenceWeb are reports of excercises and operations involving Africom that actually have happened - are you alleging that they make stuff up?
The events they reported on were also reported by other news sources. I cited it as a source merely for convenience - all the reports on one page - few other sources exist that cover African defence news so comprehensively.
I did not know that about Axis of Logic - however the rejection of Africom at their launch is well known and was widely reported in a range of mainstream reliable media. Many African governments and the AU made official statements about it at the time.
IMHO what the African countries initially rejected was the "style" of Africom's launch, rather than its "substance". Many cultures regard the loud, in your face "USA! USA! USA! Urrah!" American style of doing things to be arrogant and offensive.
The point of my post is that in spite of the initial rejection, Africom is making friends all over Africa.
IMHO BBC and Al-Jazeera are good, non-biased news sources on Africa, in addition to the usual newspapers like New York Times, Daily Telegraph etc.
The general press are also notorious for making glaring errors when reporting on military technicalities - such as not knowing the differences between various types of warships (I'm sure we've all seen reports in general newspapers where they referred to frigates as "battleships") or they call any armoured vehicle a "tank".
This is where specialist sources such as Jane's and Defenceweb are much better.
Global heavyweights such as BBC, AlJazeera, CNN, etc also tend to not cover Africa as well as other regions. Local African media sources often do a better job.
OK let’s compare reports from 2008:
About 5 paragraphs from the bottom is the only reference to the rejection that I found in 2008.
Now let’s contrast it with Axis of Logic article at The People of Africa Reject AFRICOM - A U.S. Bid for Military Dominance (Updated) | Africa |Axisoflogic.com, about half way through the article/diatribe. (red items are my emphasis)
Then there is this little sidebar in the middle of it.
p.s. If you want a real change in attitude, look at Indonesia since the last tidal wave.
I have already conceded that Axis of Logic was a poorly chosen cite to illustrate the point I was making. Yes they are rabidly anti-American. However it is a well established fact that the general response from most African governments to the initial launch of Africom was basically of the "Yankee go home!" variety.
That you see the reports on DefenceWeb about Africom's positive constructive engagement with many African countries as "...no big thing, just being neighborly" is exactly the point I tried to make - The initial noisy launch of Africom and its rejection by Africa has calmed down to a fairly comfortable "business as usual" co-operative relationship.
That is why I commented that perhaps it was the style of the launch of Africom that offended African governments, rather than the substance.
I hope we are now done with this part of the topic as I don't see any significant disagreement about substance between us.
Resource wars in Africa
I found an article that I hope some here might find interesting.
In hot pursuit: Resource wars in Africa
The whole continent needs development. Africa has enormous potential. The USA and other nations can assist with the process.
The situation in Mali is getting even more unstable. And unstable environments such as this are the perfect safe haven for rogue elements like terrorist organizations etc.
BBC News - Swiss woman abducted by gunmen in northern Mali
BBC News - Nigeria's Bayero university in Kano hit by blast
Nigerian university in Kano has been hit by a major attack. Gunfire and explosions have been reported. Casualties unknown as of now.
First draft of South African Defence Review 2012 released
For interested folks here is a downloadable PDF - http://www.sadefencereview2012.org/p...%20Version.pdf
US reports progress against LRA
Military advisers deployed by the United States in several African countries to help counter Joseph Kony and his Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) have "established a good foundation and made initial progress", according to Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary Amanda Dory. President Barack Obama announced in October 2011 that around 100 special forces personnel would be deployed to help track down the LRA, which was originally a Ugandan rebel group but has spent recent years preying on remote communities in the Central African Republic (CAR), Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) and South Sudan
[first posted to Jane's Defence Weekly - Your first line of defence - 27 April 2012]
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