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Originally Posted by Kilo 2-3  UK_Army, that isn't strictly true. Women in the modern military do struggle with rape and sexual harassment, especially while on deployment. The system in place exists because there's a serious problem.
rip, any solid evidence on your claims? You make a pretty radical point and I'm curious to know what you're basing it one. |
I do not know how radical I am. If fact I am more of a traditional type probably out of step with the times i.e. preferring reality over theory. It has been a long time since I was in the Navy but I was there when the US Navy first started putting woman on ships. Not combat ships at first. It was the USS Hope a hospital ship they started out with up in San Francisco and though I was not stations on it, I was close and everyone including the male part of the crew of the USS Hope called it a floating Bordello. But that was a long time ago when they were just first trying it out so that observation may not be fair
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When we talk about the Navy we have to make it clear which Navy we are talking about. I do not mean which county but which part of the US Navy you are taking about because the different parts can be quite different. There may not be great problems with female personal in many parts of the Navy. There doesn’t seem to be many problems with the shore based personal or in the positions that are like regular jobs everywhere except that you wear a uniform. But there is problems for those that go to sea in ships and not all of those problems are equally distributed.
The smaller the ship, the fewer the crew, the long the deployments, and the more specialized the skills needed to run the ship, the greater the problems. For instances there are fewer problems on Carriers (big ship/big crew) than on Cursers (Smaller ship/smaller crew). There are few problems In the Sea lift command (big ship/small crew) compared to Minesweepers (small ship/small crew). Where this pattern hits the hardest is in Guided missile Destroyers and Cursers. The tip of the spire as they say of the US Navy. Where you have small ships with little spare room inside them, relatively small crews for what they have to do, and so many specialties to run them that there is very little in the way of bacup personal wise.
As to my sources of information? Well I know and talk to the guys that are still in the Navy. I used to live in San Diego for a long time and even though I no longer now work in ships the Navy and the people living it have been a lifelong interest to me and will be until the day that I die. I am even willing a buy a guy a drink or two just to keep up on what is going on, talk across the backyard fence, and the like. Since I was at one time, one of them they can be quit frank as we swap our sea stories and this is what they say it is like.
The hardest part is not for the young sailor seeing the world for the first time but for the guy with ten or twelve years in, and he has spent 80% of this time at sea or in overhauls (which really, really, sucks by the way) or in shakedowns, RUFFTRY, or some such predeployment testing and training and his wife is going to divorce him if he can’t get shore duty but he keeps getting extended because the woman on board don’t or don’t stay deployed.
It is evil to let woman in combat, they should back to home,take care of kids and bring them up.
