This is a discussion on Georgian military build-up within the Geo-Strategic Defense forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; I'm asking your convinience,but i really don't know if this subject has been discussed already to this forum.
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[QUOTE=Feanor;168565]I'll look for it. I think it was an umbrella agreement
If you are talking about the US - Georgian Charter on Strategic Cooperation, then it was just a general agreement. No specific obligations, no promises to protect
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That's the one. And you're right. By the way, I notice this is your first post. Welcome to defencetalk. I suggest your either make an introduction thread for yourself, or post in the existing one in the Off-Topic and Intros subforum, and tells us a little about yourself. Please do read the rules and enjoy your stay.
That's the one. And you're right. By the way, I notice this is your first post. Welcome to defencetalk. I suggest your either make an introduction thread for yourself, or post in the existing one in the Off-Topic and Intros subforum, and tells us a little about yourself. Please do read the rules and enjoy your stay.
It's done Feanor. Please find my introduction thread in the Off-Topic and Intros.
What concerns to Georgia. The Americans promised to start a new training programme for Georgian forces. Unlike previous anti-insurgent trainings useful in Iraq and Afghanistan, this time the Georgians are to learn how to fight a real army. Do you know any specifics? And do you know if that is true that Georgian Navy recieved 8 new warships?
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I have not heard anything about it. I'm assuming Russian media would be howling about any weapon transfers to Georgia. Where have you heard the info. about the warships?
I have not heard anything about it. I'm assuming Russian media would be howling about any weapon transfers to Georgia. Where have you heard the info. about the warships?
That's a claim by the Ossetian terrorists leader - Kokoyty. Of course he is not a reliable source. That's why I'm asking if you heard anything about that.
That's a claim by the Ossetian terrorists leader - Kokoyty. Of course he is not a reliable source. That's why I'm asking if you heard anything about that.
Snakeeater sory for off-top - and how do you think who was Shamil Basaev - terrorist or sepuratist??
Please do try to stay on topic. Kokoity didn't massacre civilians. Or lead raids into neighboring Georgian provinces.
Hi guys,
Sorry for being the cause of the debate. I didn't mean that, I thought it's obvious. The last word if you will.
Feanor,
Kokoity just like Basaev is responsible for massacre of civilians (both Ossetian and Georgian by the way) and raids into neighboring Georgian provinces. I'm sure you are smart enough to find evidences. But even Amnesty International report on the Russian - Georgian war has dozens of them.
I met the guy personally and I understood why even Russian officers who served in Tskhinvali call him a gangster. My personal belief is that Basaev was the worse enemy of the Chechens and Kokoity is the same for Ossetians.
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Originally Posted by snake eater
Hi guys,
Sorry for being the cause of the debate. I didn't mean that, I thought it's obvious. The last word if you will.
Feanor,
Kokoity just like Basaev is responsible for massacre of civilians (both Ossetian and Georgian by the way) and raids into neighboring Georgian provinces. I'm sure you are smart enough to find evidences. But even Amnesty International report on the Russian - Georgian war has dozens of them.
I met the guy personally and I understood why even Russian officers who served in Tskhinvali call him a gangster. My personal belief is that Basaev was the worse enemy of the Chechens and Kokoity is the same for Ossetians.
Really? You met Kokoity personally? I'm interested in hearing more. Please tell the story.
You know I met him for a few times in different locations and I've seen the evolution of the guy. At first I thought this idiot with a constant dumb smile on his face can't be a leader of separatists or terrorists or whatever. The dump (which is not surprising - he is a former wrestler and the Champion of Georgia by the way) looked like a countryside gangster who didn't feel comfortable in his cheap suit and had no idea what he is supposed to say to journalists. So he definitely wasn't Che Guevara style guerilla leader But with a time his suits had been becoming more and more expensive, he had been surrounding by the FSO (Russian Secret Service) bodyguards and he had been becoming more and more self-confident. Only a dumb smile has been the same.
Last time my friends interviewed him just a couple of months before the Russian - Georgian war. When I asked them what did he say, they told me something bad is going to happen. Kokoity went out from the Russian Defence Ministry building in Moscow and my friends have never seen him before so bold and so enthusiastic. It was a bad sign. Quite soon we understood why.
