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Yes. But the other side of the story is that many industries in Russia are struggling as is, and need the money. While the weapon systems are often over priced, this is because the plants are in bad shape, and need the money for things like maintenance, and equipment upgrades, as well as to cover previous losses. The result is that while the price of the equipment is over-stated, the factories can't do it for less.
Yes. But the other side of the story is that many industries in Russia are struggling as is, and need the money. While the weapon systems are often over priced, this is because the plants are in bad shape, and need the money for things like maintenance, and equipment upgrades, as well as to cover previous losses. The result is that while the price of the equipment is over-stated, the factories can't do it for less.
according to the report the ministry was okay with profit % of up to 25, shouldn't that recover all the money lost to the bad state of equipment.
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Mmm. I've heard that the MoD price requirements tend to be capricious and often arbitrary, without real consideration of the expenses. They generally don't do what they claim they do, which is looking at what makes up the price, instead when they feel something is too expensive or they don't like what they're getting they basically throw tantrums to get the manufacturers to lower prices. Don't quote me on this, but from what I've come across that seems to be the situation.
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This is an more or less up to date force org for West MD (in war time Operational-Strategic Command West). I will post info for the other MDs over the next couple of days. The MD contains the 6th and 20th Armies, but the exact makeup of each is unclear. This list omits various support units such as training ground management units, railroad troops, training centers, and pure storage units (those that are not intended to mobilize into full size units during war time). This list is fairly complete when it comes to the major combat units, but may be missing some storage bases meant to mobilize, and some support units.
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A few comments: the NBC forces (РХБЗ in Russian) refers to NBC clean-up troops, that do things like decontamination of areas hit by NBC weapons. They also include a number of additional units such as the flamethrower units (typically using RPO-Shmel flamethrowers).
The Command and Control Brigades are usually the command element of an Army, or of a Military District. This might be why there are 3 in each (1 for each Army, one for the MD).
The Military Bases each contain the equivalent of a single Motor-Rifles Brigade, plus additional units including SAMs, Aircraft, etc.
The AA Missile Brigades refer to the anti-air units of the Land Forces. They operate mainly the Buk and Buk-M systems, along with some S-300V. The regular S-300P, S-300PM, and S-400 are currently employed by the air force, which has its own units of SAMs. They aren't listed here.
The Artillery Brigades seem to lack any standard make up some of them containing as many as 50+ Howitzers, others as few 18, in addition to varying numbers of medium range MLRS (BM-27 Uragan) and anti tank systems (self-propelled ATGM units Shturm-S, and towed anti-tank guns MT-12 Rapira). Some consist entirely of 12 long range MLRS systems (BM-30 Smerch).
The Missile Brigades typically consist of 12 Tochka or Tochka-U units. One of the ones in West MD has Iskander-M instead of Tochka.
A few comments: the NBC forces (РХБЗ in Russian) refers to NBC clean-up troops, that do things like decontamination of areas hit by NBC weapons. They also include a number of additional units such as the flamethrower units (typically using RPO-Shmel flamethrowers).
The Command and Control Brigades are usually the command element of an Army, or of a Military District. This might be why there are 3 in each (1 for each Army, one for the MD).
The Military Bases each contain the equivalent of a single Motor-Rifles Brigade, plus additional units including SAMs, Aircraft, etc.
The AA Missile Brigades refer to the anti-air units of the Land Forces. They operate mainly the Buk and Buk-M systems, along with some S-300V. The regular S-300P, S-300PM, and S-400 are currently employed by the air force, which has its own units of SAMs. They aren't listed here.
The Artillery Brigades seem to lack any standard make up some of them containing as many as 50+ Howitzers, others as few 18, in addition to varying numbers of medium range MLRS (BM-27 Uragan) and anti tank systems (self-propelled ATGM units Shturm-S, and towed anti-tank guns MT-12 Rapira). Some consist entirely of 12 long range MLRS systems (BM-30 Smerch).
The Missile Brigades typically consist of 12 Tochka or Tochka-U units. One of the ones in West MD has Iskander-M instead of Tochka.
Are these units fully equiped? What type of order of battle the russian forces use now. Do Russian military uses helicopter like the US military. During the Georgia conflict I seen some good and bad with the Russian military.
