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Is Ahmadinejad At GCC summit looking for a face-saving solution?

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Old December 1st, 2007   #1
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Is Ahmadinejad At GCC summit looking for a face-saving solution?

From military experience I see as If Ahmadinejad had removed the safety clip from a fragmentation hand grenade and about to remove the safety pin , and our GCC leaders are begging him not to do so, Iran well seek to capitalize on the opportunity.
A way out of the confrontation with U.S as gulfsecurity.blogspot.com puts it?
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From military experience I see as If Ahmadinejad had removed the safety clip from a fragmentation hand grenade and about to remove the safety pin , and our GCC leaders are begging him not to do so, Iran well seek to capitalize on the opportunity.
A way out of the confrontation with U.S as gulfsecurity.blogspot.com puts it?
Then it is fortunate he has hasn't got a nuke instead of a grenade.
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Then it is fortunate he has hasn't got a nuke instead of a grenade.

In a small room like the a rabian gulf with a lot oil for the world that hand grenade is a nuke
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Then it is fortunate he has hasn't got a nuke instead of a grenade.
Oh please...

There's NO proof Iran's going after a nuke this has been said several times by the IAEA, Russia and several other countries and organizations.

By the way I don't understand how this thread has to do with defense, military or anything of the sort. This is purely political.

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i think its quite obvious that the're going for the bomb. amadinnerdude or what ever he is called is a complete nutter. torturing women as they have a bit of hair showing - aparently this isnt holy. many other extreem things are also going on behind the boarder.

i want them to get the bomb because then the US will have an excuse to launch a nuclear strike on Iran and melt the country to glass. ok ok, thats a bit extreem but an invasion of iran is needed, infact an invasion of the 'trouble causing' arabic nations is needed.

currently a british teacher in sudan is being trailed for calling her toy teddy bear 'mohammed'. all these scum bags were taking to the streets and demanding she was executed. it just makes me sick, all these nations funding terrorism and all of them hating the west.
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i think its quite obvious that the're going for the bomb. amadinnerdude or what ever he is called is a complete nutter. torturing women as they have a bit of hair showing - aparently this isnt holy. many other extreem things are also going on behind the boarder.

i want them to get the bomb because then the US will have an excuse to launch a nuclear strike on Iran and melt the country to glass. ok ok, thats a bit extreem but an invasion of iran is needed, infact an invasion of the 'trouble causing' arabic nations is needed.

currently a british teacher in sudan is being trailed for calling her toy teddy bear 'mohammed'. all these scum bags were taking to the streets and demanding she was executed. it just makes me sick, all these nations funding terrorism and all of them hating the west.
You're like the second person I've seen on here that speaks like that. Both of you don't know how to spell, seem uneducated and I doubt you've ever been outside of the countries you live in. Wonder if it's just a "coincidence"...
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no i havent met this other guy who speaks like me. im not uneducated and my spelling is bad coz its 'internet writing' or whatever, i cant be bothered to write properly. ive also travelled europe and a large area of the US so yes ive left my own country.

im just trying express my opinions, it probably doesnt anger you that millions of people want to kill a school teacher for saying the word mohammed. i dont want to offend or insult anyone.

what are your thoughts on the whole Iran extreemism and terrorism stuff?
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invading Iran means another Iraq and much more disturbing for the security of the region.

but a quick military air and cruise missile strike against Iran's nuclear facilities is whats needed , a nuclear Iran is untolerable by the people of the GCC countries.
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invading Iran means another Iraq and much more disturbing for the security of the region.

but a quick military air and cruise missile strike against Iran's nuclear facilities is whats needed , a nuclear Iran is untolerable by the people of the GCC countries.
yes im going to have to agree with you there! To put it bluntly, at the moment we are having trouble with a couple of madmen with bombs strapped to them. So just imagine the trouble we're gonna have with the Iranian military! They make the Iraqi forces look shocking.

i dont think a nuclear Iran should ever be aloud, the president is an absolute madman. A bombing campaign and a few naval and special forces missions will do the trick. Maybe bombing a few important Iranian power stations or Military bases just to show that we mean business would be enough to stop Iran?
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no i havent met this other guy who speaks like me. im not uneducated and my spelling is bad coz its 'internet writing' or whatever, i cant be bothered to write properly. ive also travelled europe and a large area of the US so yes ive left my own country.

im just trying express my opinions, it probably doesnt anger you that millions of people want to kill a school teacher for saying the word mohammed. i dont want to offend or insult anyone.

what are your thoughts on the whole Iran extreemism and terrorism stuff?
IMO, terrorism/extremism is bad and inhumane. But that's not what I was criticizing about you and your ignorant, bigoted and extremist views. You seem to want to pass Muslims off as problem/threat to the world.

If you aren't truly a bigot then you would have just been as equally mad at US soldiers raping the 14 year old girl and burning her and her whole family alive afterwards and only one of them ended up getting a "life sentence" for what he did but will, in reality, go free within 10 years time if he behaves well in prison. The rest got either acquitted and or like 2 years in prison and sentences like that.

I don't know about you but a group grown men gang-raping a 14 year old girl and burning her and her family alive afterwards and getting away with it makes me little more mad than a teacher being jailed for a few days before being deported to the UK for naming a teddy bear "Mohamed".

And believe me this is just a tip of the ice berg of what the US (and the West as a whole) does in other countries...

By the way, you are truly an insane human being if you believe that a country should be, as you said, "turned into glass".
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invading Iran means another Iraq and much more disturbing for the security of the region.

but a quick military air and cruise missile strike against Iran's nuclear facilities is whats needed , a nuclear Iran is untolerable by the people of the GCC countries.
If this is what this thread is about (military strategies for the Iran situation) then there is another (much better) thread dealing with the exact same thing. Other than that, this seems to be a purely political thread which, IIRC, are breach of forum rules.
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IMO, terrorism/extremism is bad and inhumane. But that's not what I was criticizing about you and your ignorant, bigoted and extremist views. You seem to want to pass Muslims off as problem/threat to the world.

If you aren't truly a bigot then you would have just been as equally mad at US soldiers raping the 14 year old girl and burning her and her whole family alive afterwards and only one of them ended up getting a "life sentence" for what he did but will, in reality, go free within 10 years time if he behaves well in prison. The rest got either acquitted and or like 2 years in prison and sentences like that.

I don't know about you but a group grown men gang-raping a 14 year old girl and burning her and her family alive afterwards and getting away with it makes me little more mad than a teacher being jailed for a few days before being deported to the UK for naming a teddy bear "Mohamed".

And believe me this is just a tip of the ice berg of what the US (and the West as a whole) does in other countries...

By the way, you are truly an insane human being if you believe that a country should be, as you said, "turned into glass".
yes yes i know the whole soldier/14 year old girl thing. When i found out about that i was sick. i know what some individuals in the US military do. all u have to do is go on youtube and see videos of soldiers launching mortars at a mosque because its ''funny'' to them and teasing kids with water. its completely disgusting. What is also disgusting is that these extreemists that want to murder and slaughter innocent people (which some of the western soldiers are equal too when it comes to barbaric and disgusting behaviour). yes melting a country to glass was a little extreem i know and no armadinerjad is a threat to the world, not muslims, i know many muslims who happen to be decent people and who too think the Iranian president is a bad man and terrorism is evil.

there is evil stuff going on behind the Iranian boarder and ahmadinejad needs to be taken out of power. an invasion of Iran will just end up in a shambles like Iraq.
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a quick military air and cruise missile strike against Iran's nuclear facilities is whats needed .
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That’s easy for you to say. but In Kuwait we are only 150 km away from Iran’s nuclear facility at Brusher.
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yes yes i know the whole soldier/14 year old girl thing. When i found out about that i was sick. i know what some individuals in the US military do. all u have to do is go on youtube and see videos of soldiers launching mortars at a mosque because its ''funny'' to them and teasing kids with water. its completely disgusting. What is also disgusting is that these extreemists that want to murder and slaughter innocent people (which some of the western soldiers are equal too when it comes to barbaric and disgusting behaviour). yes melting a country to glass was a little extreem i know and no armadinerjad is a threat to the world, not muslims, i know many muslims who happen to be decent people and who too think the Iranian president is a bad man and terrorism is evil.

there is evil stuff going on behind the Iranian boarder and ahmadinejad needs to be taken out of power. an invasion of Iran will just end up in a shambles like Iraq.

A democratically elected president needs to be taken out of power because he's not US friendly?! So the West can install a friendly gov't?!

Ah, yes, Western democracy at it's best! The good ol' "If you're anti-West, you're a dictator" mentality...

Also note how Qaddafi used to be referred to as "Libyan dictator" but as soon as he turned friendly to the West he earned the dignified title of "Libyan President".

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i dislike Ahmedinejad in a way of his talkings. he never answer a question straight on. always drift of to other area. his reputation can be enhance during UOC visit but his tendency to ramblings only make peoples more skeptical.

But beside all that, i personally oppose any military attack on Iran, limited or not. Iran, as signatory to NPT, have every right to develop peaceful nuclear energy. some argue that the west only ask Iran to suspend, but as proven in the past, the west intended for the suspension to be indefinitely. this here is not west trying to stop iran from building nuclear weapons, it is the west trying to stop Iran from developing their country.

To Jambo_100; there are other peoples with different cultures all around the world. they view the world from a different perspective. you can't measure this people by your culture standard and Iran is not USA. they are different peoples and different culture with a whole set of values distinctive to their own. many of my friends have been to Iran and all of them return whole. none of them face any difficulties anymore then what they face in the western countries. none of them have any trouble with Iranian authorities. you only get trouble if you seek it, even if you're in the USA. they lose nothing, except for some cash (shoppings and all). so what? the woman in Iran have to wear headscarf and can't freely mingle between opposite sex, but that's the value they choose to uphold. in the whole, their society thrive and developing. despite a few issues everyone happy with their lives. it's like eating 2 sets of steaks. the westerners eat inside a plate with knife and fork, while the Iranian choose to eat inside a bowl with their hand. they eat in different way, but the taste is the same. if you, Jambo_100 can't tolerate this, then how can you say you uphold freedom when you deny others the freedom to choose their values.
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