<![CDATA[Defense Technology & Military Forum]]> http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/ Global defence forum on topics for military aviation, air force, army, navy, missiles, defense technology, space and nuclear forces as well as post military pictures and videos. Discuss world security issues in areas such as war on terror, piracy and nuclear weapons threats. en Sat, 18 May 2013 21:07:42 GMT vBulletin 60 http://img.defencetalk.com/forums/imagize/misc/rss.jpg <![CDATA[Defense Technology & Military Forum]]> http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/ Tactical Nuclear weapons - still relevant? http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/military-strategy-tactics/tactical-nuclear-weapons-still-relevant-12569/ Wed, 15 May 2013 03:49:58 GMT Does anyone know of any countries that are still actively developing tactical nuclear weapons or would still conceivably use them if stock piled? I think I would exclude north Korea from this for the time being because any tactical use would be part of a very large scale use, so really more of... Does anyone know of any countries that are still actively developing tactical nuclear weapons or would still conceivably use them if stock piled?

I think I would exclude north Korea from this for the time being because any tactical use would be part of a very large scale use, so really more of a form of strategic use of a tactical device. ]]> Military Strategy and Tactics StingrayOZ http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/military-strategy-tactics/tactical-nuclear-weapons-still-relevant-12569/ Air force poem http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/air-force-poem-12556/ Fri, 10 May 2013 22:33:42 GMT A little something I can up with in my spare time after some Blake reading.. thanks for reading :)

suggestions very welcome!

Air force! Air force! Help me see
Through the fog safe make me be,
All the hostiles shall beware
When we're screaming through the air.

In the distant lands and skies
You're like a ranged pair of eyes.
Lurid pain our enemies wracks,
When we track them with AWACS.

And what sortie would be safe
And deny AA the strafe,
If it weren't for the sentinel of war,
Faithful, lonely Jay watch STAR.

And when the threats have been ID'd
Who goes in to do the deed?
Pummeling SA's silly,
Raptops firing willy-nilly.

And when the tanks run low and dry,
And no longer can we fly,
Who's there to save the day?
Why, KC's, brave and fay.

Air force! Air force! Help me see
Through the fog safe make me be,
All the hostiles shall beware
When we're screaming through the air. ]]> alexkvaskov http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/air-force-poem-12556/ Why USA Is Worried of Syrian Air Defenses? http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/why-usa-worried-syrian-air-defenses-12554/ Thu, 09 May 2013 13:24:30 GMT The following article below was in the Wall Street Journal this morning. The F22 has not been really tested operationally against any current adversaries. This will be an real test bed for the aircraft IMO if the USA decides to impose a no fly zone in Syria? Wall Street Journal May 9, 2013 ... The following article below was in the Wall Street Journal this morning. The F22 has not been really tested operationally against any current adversaries. This will be an real test bed for the aircraft IMO if the USA decides to impose a no fly zone in Syria?

Wall Street Journal
May 9, 2013
Pg. 11

U.S. Is Warned Russia Plans Syria Arms Sale
By Jay Solomon, Adam Entous and Julian E. Barnes

WASHINGTON—Israel has warned the U.S. that a Russian deal is imminent to sell advanced ground-to-air missile systems to Syria, weapons that would significantly boost the regime's ability to stave off intervention in its civil war.

U.S. officials said on Wednesday that they are analyzing the information Israel provided about the suspected sale of S-300 missile batteries to Syria, but wouldn't comment on whether they believed such a transfer was near.

Russian officials didn't immediately return requests to comment. The Russian Embassy in Washington has said its policy is not to comment on arms sales or transfers between Russia and other countries.

The government of President Bashar al-Assad has been seeking to purchase S-300 missile batteries—which can intercept both manned aircraft and guided missiles—from Moscow going back to the George W. Bush administration, U.S. officials said. Western nations have lobbied President Vladimir Putin's government not to go ahead with the sale. If Syria were to acquire and deploy the systems, it would make any international intervention in Syria far more complicated, according to U.S. and Middle East-based officials.

According to the information the Israelis provided in recent days, Syria has been making payments on a 2010 agreement with Moscow to buy four batteries for $900 million. They cite financial transactions from the Syrian government, including one made this year through Russia's foreign-development bank, known as the VEB.

The package includes six launchers and 144 operational missiles, each with a range of 125 miles, according to the information the Israelis provided. The first shipment could come over the next three months, according to the Israelis' information, and be concluded by the end of the year. Russia is also expected to send two instruction teams to train Syria's military in operating the missile system, the Israelis say.

Russia has been Mr. Assad's most important international backer, outside of Iran, since the conflict in Syria started in March 2011, and supplies Syria with arms, funding and fuel. Russia maintains a naval port in Syria, its only outlet to the Mediterranean. Moscow also has publicly voiced worries that a collapsed Syria could fuel Islamist activities in its restive Caucasus regions.

Secretary of State John Kerry met with Mr. Putin on Tuesday in Moscow. The leaders said they would stage an international conference this month aimed at ending the civil war. U.S. officials couldn't say whether Messrs. Kerry and Putin or their teams discussed the arms sale.

British Prime Minister David Cameron is scheduled to visit Mr. Putin in Russia on Friday. The White House on Wednesday said Mr. Cameron would visit Washington on Monday to discuss issues including Syria's civil war and counterterrorism, plus trade and economic issues, with President Barack Obama.

The Obama administration has argued that Mr. Assad has to leave office as part of a political transition in Damascus. The Kremlin has maintained that he retains a large base of support and should be included in negotiations over a future Syrian government.

Should Mr. Putin's government go ahead with the sale, it would mark a significant escalation in the battle between Moscow and Washington over Syria. U.S. officials said they believe Russian technicians are already helping maintain the existing Syrian air-defense units.

The first air-defense deals between Russia and Syria date back decades. Russia in recent years has stepped up shipments to modernize Syria's targeting systems and make the air defenses mobile, and therefore much more difficult for Israel—and the U.S.—to overcome.

According to a U.S. intelligence assessment, Russia began shipping SA-22 Pantsir-S1 units to Syria in 2008. The system, a combination of surface-to-air missiles and 30mm antiaircraft guns, has a digital targeting system and is mounted on a combat vehicle, making it easy to move. Syria has 36 of the vehicles, according to the assessment.

In 2009, the Russians started upgrading Syria's outdated analog SA-3 surface-to-air missile systems, turning them into the SA-26 Pechora-2M system, which is mobile and digital, equipped with missiles with an operational range of 17 miles, according to the assessment.

The U.S. is particularly worried about another modernized system Moscow provides—the SA-5. With an operational range of 175 miles, SA-5 missiles could take out U.S. planes flying from Cyprus, a key North Atlantic Treaty Organization base that was used during Libya operations and would likely be vital in any Syrian operation.

The U.S. has stealth aircraft and ship-based, precision-guided missiles that could take out key air-defense sites. Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has privately told the White House that shutting down the system could require weeks of bombing, putting U.S. fighter pilots in peril and diverting military resources from other priorities.

According to an analysis by the U.S. military's Joint Staff, Syrian air defenses are nearly five times more sophisticated than what existed in Libya before the NATO launched its air campaign there in 2011. Syrian air defenses are about 10 times more sophisticated than the system the U.S. and its allies faced in Serbia. ]]> db2646 http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/why-usa-worried-syrian-air-defenses-12554/ New Radar for Special Forces http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/new-radar-special-forces-12542/ Fri, 03 May 2013 18:04:48 GMT It seems that British company Kelvin Hughes have brought out a new small radar for small RIBs and assault craft. According to their website, its called SCV and is based on their Sharpeye solid state radar as is used on warships. Doesn't say much else but it was showed at the recent Offshore and Patrol conference held in Portsmouth dockyard. ]]> Milboat http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/new-radar-special-forces-12542/ Future of the Global Hawk http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/future-global-hawk-12541/ Wed, 01 May 2013 04:53:47 GMT I've been reading from a few different sources that it's troubled times ahead for the Global Hawk with the U2 possible remaining in service. Are they only phasing out the block 30's or the entire Global Hawk fleet? If all, what are the "alternatives" on the table that we're looking at?

USAF Cancels Block 30 RQ-4 Global Hawk - Defense Update - Military Technology & Defense News
Why Global Hawk Block 40 May Be Killed ]]> rand0m http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/future-global-hawk-12541/ NATO Lock shields event http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/network-security/nato-lock-shields-event-12540/ Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:54:13 GMT NATO conducts annual cyber defence exercise - Security - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/341328,nato-conducts-annual-cyber-defence-exercise.aspx) Small insight into what goes on in network security circles. I do somewhat agree they should have opened it up to a... NATO conducts annual cyber defence exercise - Security - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au
Small insight into what goes on in network security circles. I do somewhat agree they should have opened it up to a world wide red team to really test the setup.

Ben. ]]> Network Security StingrayOZ http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/network-security/nato-lock-shields-event-12540/ Add homeland security forum http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/suggestions-feedback/add-homeland-security-forum-12539/ Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:24:13 GMT Just a suggestion. Just a suggestion. ]]> Suggestions/Feedback Dan Jones http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/suggestions-feedback/add-homeland-security-forum-12539/ Light infantry http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/army-security-forces/light-infantry-12537/ Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:48:48 GMT The question of the U.S. Army's strategic deployability and how it can be enhanced are not new concepts. Since the end of world war two the amount of sea lift and air lift seem to have fallen behind over the decades, in terms of being able to deploy and then sustain a(n) invasion/expeditionary force in a contested battle space. This issue has been exacerbated with budget reductions and the Anti-access/ area- denial challenge.

In recent war games the Army's own conclusions about such a scenario show only light forces and strikers brigades being able to gain entry, but are then rapidly contained by heavier forces and are prevented from expanding and deploying heavier units and keeping them supplied.

Although I am a mere veteran of the field artillery and in no way an expert, it would appear light infantry forces like the Army Rangers would be ideal. The Ranger regiments proved to be invaluable in virtually every landing in ETO.

Should the Army consider increasing the numbers of active battalions in 75th or add another Regiment entirely? Given their value on the battlefield and their ability to operate with a reduced logistal tail (target) it would seem money well spent. I don't think we should have units similar to Viet Cong Sapper units but given the wars we will most likely find ourselves in in this new century, effective and true light formations seem a logical step for addressing the Army's problem of strategic deployability and sustainability. ]]> Rimasta http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/army-security-forces/light-infantry-12537/ Identifiy this SMG ? http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/identifiy-smg-12532/ Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:58:32 GMT can you guys identify this SMG ? its carried by an Egyptian homeland officer Image: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/71484_445302458895488_1039505579_n.jpg can you guys identify this SMG ? its carried by an Egyptian homeland officer

]]> BmAgPuL http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/identifiy-smg-12532/ Sometimes Funny http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/sometimes-funny-12529/ Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:06:31 GMT This is a thread for some funny captioned military photos. They don't have to be original. Also it's not just the photo, it's the appropriateness of the caption to the pic. Everyone's welcome to contribute.











]]> Feanor http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/sometimes-funny-12529/ China is a cemetery of the abandoned chemical weapons http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/missiles-wmds/china-cemetery-abandoned-chemical-weapons-12527/ Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:51:15 GMT *Deleted* Deleted ]]> Zhong http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/missiles-wmds/china-cemetery-abandoned-chemical-weapons-12527/ mystery UAV -- anyone know what this is? http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/mystery-uav-anyone-know-what-12524/ Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:00:51 GMT Hi Guys, I am working on a home project and am wondering who makes this UAV?? I cant seem to find it anywhere! Attachment 5938 (http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5938) any suggestions are appreciated! Hi Guys,

I am working on a home project and am wondering who makes this UAV??

I cant seem to find it anywhere!

Attachment 5938

any suggestions are appreciated!

cheers.
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]]> dune26 http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/intros-off-topic/mystery-uav-anyone-know-what-12524/ Seeking to Identify a Type of Missile or Rocket http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/missiles-wmds/seeking-identify-type-missile-rocket-12518/ Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:35:40 GMT Hi, I purchased what looks to be the shell of a missile or rocket at an antiques fair and I was hoping someone on this forum might help me identify what kind or rocket or missile it is. Attached are some photos of the writing on the side of the item. Any help or suggestions are appreciated. Thank... Hi, I purchased what looks to be the shell of a missile or rocket at an antiques fair and I was hoping someone on this forum might help me identify what kind or rocket or missile it is. Attached are some photos of the writing on the side of the item. Any help or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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]]> clinton150 http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/missiles-wmds/seeking-identify-type-missile-rocket-12518/ A rifle for a new military http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/army-security-forces/rifle-new-military-12517/ Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:02:10 GMT Ok so i am new to this whole forum business, but i like to design things and try and make things.. now I would like put out a very simple question. In an military rifle, what are some good features that would produce an accurate, powerful weapon. im trying to build and blue print a weapon. let me... Ok so i am new to this whole forum business, but i like to design things and try and make things.. now I would like put out a very simple question. In an military rifle, what are some good features that would produce an accurate, powerful weapon. im trying to build and blue print a weapon. let me know ]]> thethinker92 http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/army-security-forces/rifle-new-military-12517/ Swedish Air force dont respond to Russian Bombers http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/swedish-air-force-dont-respond-russian-bombers-12516/ Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:22:38 GMT The Swedish air force has recieved hard critism after not responding to Russian planes flying near the swedish border over the Balitic sea. On march 29 two bombers of Tu-22M3 class and four Su-27 fighters left Russia from Sankt petersburg and headed for the swedish mainland over the baltic. Only... The Swedish air force has recieved hard critism after not responding to Russian planes flying near the swedish border over the Balitic sea.

On march 29 two bombers of Tu-22M3 class and four Su-27 fighters left Russia from Sankt petersburg and headed for the swedish mainland over the baltic. Only a few miles from the boarder the planes turned and completed a war exercise.

The Swedish air force tracked the planes with radars but didnt send up any of its Saab Gripen figthers. When asked why the Air force didnt respond the answer was becouse no fighters or pilots was avalible at the time.

Later it was reviled that the Awedish airforce dont have 24/7 respond any more.
Nato did however send up two danish F-16 fighters from its airgroups in the Baltic states.

Today the Swedish gournment called several military representetivs to hearing to get information about the incident.

Russian jets practised attacks on Sweden - The Local
Ryska bombplan övade anfall mot Sverige - Nyheter | SVT.se
Försvaret kallas till utskott om ryska bombplan - Nyheter | SVT.se ]]> Wall83 http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/swedish-air-force-dont-respond-russian-bombers-12516/ Unidentified object on a bone dome http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/unidentified-object-bone-dome-12515/ Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:17:28 GMT Does anyone know what is that circular object mounted on the right of the pilot's bone dome?

RMAF Sukhoi Su-30MKM air demonstration LIMA 2013 - YouTube ]]> STURM http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/unidentified-object-bone-dome-12515/ Heli deck surfaces http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/heli-deck-surfaces-12512/ Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:27:16 GMT The USN uses relatively expensive nonskid surfacing on their CV and LHD decks that used to cost roughly $13 to $25 per sq ft to apply (cheaper alternatives were reportedly being studied... The USN uses relatively expensive nonskid surfacing on their CV and LHD decks that used to cost roughly $13 to $25 per sq ft to apply (cheaper alternatives were reportedly being studied)

The USCG has its own coatings for its WHECs: http://adroth.ph/afpmodern/wp-conten...2/10/grate.png

What do your navies use for your heli-deck equipped ships? Any data on associated costs? ]]> adroth http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/heli-deck-surfaces-12512/ Assange meeting Eric Schmidt http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/network-security/assange-meeting-eric-schmidt-12509/ Fri, 19 Apr 2013 21:07:53 GMT Very interesting transcript between Assange and the head of Google. Topics discussed, Chinese network firewalling, us network, communications in broken/oppressive countries. Also a lot about bitcoins. Most likely providing background about bitcoins issues recently. Issues with googles divisions... Very interesting transcript between Assange and the head of Google.

Topics discussed, Chinese network firewalling, us network, communications in broken/oppressive countries. Also a lot about bitcoins. Most likely providing background about bitcoins issues recently. Issues with googles divisions like youtube and censoring.

PLEASE BE AWARE - AFAIK US service personnel should not visit wikileaks. Service personnel in other countries should seek clarification on wikileaks access.

Transcript of secret meeting between Julian Assange and Google CEO Eric Schmidt

Very interesting for those in or have an interest in network security ]]> Network Security StingrayOZ http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/network-security/assange-meeting-eric-schmidt-12509/ Fighter operational ceiling http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/fighter-operational-ceiling-12508/ Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:14:09 GMT what is the operational ( service ) ceiling of normal fighters like f-14 , f-15 , f-16 , f-35 , f-22 , su-27, su-35 , mig-31 , mig-35 , ef-2000 , rafale ? ( iam not talking about the max altitudes that these aircraft can reach in a zoom climb ) at what altitude pilots flying normal fighter ... what is the operational ( service ) ceiling of normal fighters like f-14 , f-15 , f-16 , f-35 , f-22 , su-27, su-35 , mig-31 , mig-35 , ef-2000 , rafale ? ( iam not talking about the max altitudes that these aircraft can reach in a zoom climb )
at what altitude pilots flying normal fighter start to need a space suit like u-2 and sr-71 pilot ]]> moon_light http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/fighter-operational-ceiling-12508/ How effective is the very long range air to air missiles against fighter http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/how-effective-very-long-range-air-air-missiles-against-fighter-12507/ Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:06:46 GMT how good are the missiles like AIM-54 , R-37M , K-100 , RVV-BD against fighter , are they better than medium range missiles like AIM-120D , Meteor , Mica ? ( i mean longer max range = longer burn out time = longer NEZ , bigger warhead = higher PK ) according to producer AIM-54 can be use against... how good are the missiles like AIM-54 , R-37M , K-100 , RVV-BD against fighter , are they better than medium range missiles like AIM-120D , Meteor , Mica ? ( i mean longer max range = longer burn out time = longer NEZ , bigger warhead = higher PK )
according to producer AIM-54 can be use against target that can maneuver up to 4 G , RVV-BD can be use against target that have maneuver up to 8.5 G , the K-100 have been derived from the 9K37 Buk are said to be able to deal with target like tactical ballistic missiles, strategic and tactical aircraft manoeuvring up to 12G ( not to mention that fighter at high altitude are often not very agile )
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K37_Buk
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-100_(missile)
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the range of these missiles :
AIM-54 = 200 km
RVV-BD = 200 km
R-37M = 400 km
K-100 = 400 km
btw at what altitude missile start to lose ability to turn ? ( not enough air density for the fin ) ]]> moon_light http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/air-force-aviation/how-effective-very-long-range-air-air-missiles-against-fighter-12507/