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What Infantry Setup Do You Prefer?

This is a discussion on What Infantry Setup Do You Prefer? within the Army & Security Forces forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by old faithful ok, just re-read the start, hootchie was more for my part of the world. Also, ...


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Old March 17th, 2010   #31
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ok, just re-read the start, hootchie was more for my part of the world. Also, got caught up with the evaision operation, (dont know why) but the rest of the stuff remains.
Rank? cprperal (section comander).
Best rank in the Australian Army.
Lead patrols at section level, plan the patrol how you want (to fit the mission statement.)
No other rank gives you DIRECT comand of more troops.
Platoon comander, comands directly 3 section comanders and Pl sergent.
Company comander comands Directly (3 platoon comanders and CHQ)
So section comander for me.
Totally agree with you OF Cpl was the best rank that any infantry soldier in NZ had, you are the bee's knees comd directly more men than the CA or CDF still have fond memories of my time as Sect Comdr laid the ground work for today.
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Aust cams, south african chest webbing, giggle hat.
GPS, spare batteries.
Silva compass, topo maps of area 1:25000
at least 6lt water, 2 in issue water bottles, the rest in bladders and coke bottles.
hootchie.
cam cream.
this is evaision right?
2 x cs gas grenades, 2 x smoke.
any light inf rifle, styer,M4 R4 AK so long as its in good working order, would prefer 10 x 30 rd mags, but hey, i want to avoid contact, so if i had to only have 5, so be it.
NVG,s
yowie suit 1 or 2 24hr rat packs.
oops, forgot my claymores, x2, and guess ill need a small day pack.
travel light, freeze at night!

reason for cs gas, if someone is chaseing/following me up, trow cs and smoke, set up claymore, let it go and bug out.
As for me been a medic we had a few other needs and had to carry other more important bits of kit so I would go with...

DPCU's, Giggle hat and those yank desert boots.
SADF Chest rig and a drop bag
Forget the body armour and helmet...saw too many drop from heat wearing that crap.
Good set of flight gloves
F88C or M4 plus a 9mm Browning (would prefer the Sig 226)
Agree 10x30rd mags for the F88C and a couple of mags for the 9 mil
Something nice and sharp to cut gear off people (I carried a nice Buck with a scaloped blade for that).
No frags just 2 smoke (Green and Red).
Trauma throw pack and medkit
1 x 24hrs CRP (Broken down)
7 L of water...3 in the camel and 4 in the SADF bottles
Ninox with NAD
GPS and Map/Compass (you would be a fool not to take a map)
$20 (you never know when you need a bit of cash)
A spare pouch of tobbaco i/c papers in a zip lock bag.
Cable ties, Electrical tape and some fencing wire
Pruning shears and a set of bull nose pliers
Swiss army knife.
Rain poncho (got to have a bit of shelter)
Hootchie cord

Weight issues are nothing compared to broken kit or running out of smokes!
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LOL! How the hell did I forget the spare pouch of tobacco!!!!
And the pruneing shears....(securteurs....terible speller)

On K92, our whole section got re-tasks after 2 weeks, and didnt have the oppertunity to top up our smokes ...so, we were doing some routine patrol near Katherine, and set up a VCP to bludge smokes off passing truckies! Truckies were keen to help.
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Wait, why the pruning sheers?

Cutting through enemy hedges? Combat topiary? Cutting branches for camo lean-tos? Trail clearing purposes?
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Wait, why the pruning sheers?

Cutting through enemy hedges? Combat topiary? Cutting branches for camo lean-tos? Trail clearing purposes?
Pruning shears were used instead of machetes in the jungle didnt leave a massive trail & were more quiet this lead to the VC nickname of the Grey ghost for our rifle companies in vietnam,
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Pruning shears were used instead of machetes in the jungle didnt leave a massive trail & were more quiet this lead to the VC nickname of the Grey ghost for our rifle companies in vietnam,
And they helped if you want a nice cutting to plant so you could pretty up ya OHP.
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also uses a lot less energy ,and is quicker cutting through heavy undergrowth, in our tropical regions. they will cut through a 12mm vine quietly, and with one cut. machette makes heaps of noise, requires more effort, and more cuts, and moves the whole tree or bush you are cutting.
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also uses a lot less energy ,and is quicker cutting through heavy undergrowth, in our tropical regions. they will cut through a 12mm vine quietly, and with one cut. machette makes heaps of noise, requires more effort, and more cuts, and moves the whole tree or bush you are cutting.
Sounds like a good idea as only a very SHARP machete can slice "soft" (non-rigid) vegetation effortlessly. Twines and fern are especially resistant to machete swings. Especially given the usually low quality of the military issue machete.

In SAF we get really crap ones made of low quality iron. They are usually useless except for hacking huge bamboo plant that we use to support camo nets.

I read the devious VC have this technique of pruning the bottom level of foliage in front of their bunker firing slits. This way, their bunker remains hidden but they can see and shoot at the legs of enemy troops approaching unawares.
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LOL! How the hell did I forget the spare pouch of tobacco!!!!
And the pruneing shears....(securteurs....terible speller)

On K92, our whole section got re-tasks after 2 weeks, and didnt have the oppertunity to top up our smokes ...so, we were doing some routine patrol near Katherine, and set up a VCP to bludge smokes off passing truckies! Truckies were keen to help.
A pouch of tobacco?

So you got smokes of trucks drivers? Just kiding
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A pouch of tobacco?

So you got smokes of trucks drivers? Just kiding
Yep, exactly, we asked for smokes from truck drivers as we stopped them at the vehicle cheak points! Lucky for us, that most of the truckies smoked!
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