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Ukraine sells BTR-3E1s to Thailand

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Old August 26th, 2007   #1
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Ukraine sells BTR-3E1s to Thailand

Ukraine lands $117 million arms sale to Thailand

Ukraine has won a contract to supply 96 armored personnel carriers for $117 million to arm Thailand’s military forces, Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych announced last week.

While the contract has not yet been signed, the winning bid represents one of the single biggest readymade arms export contracts landed during the last several years by Ukraine, a country that ranks as one of the top 10 arms exporters in the world.

Ukraine outbid eight countries in a pitch, including Russia, China and Canada. The contract is expected to be signed in September.

Thai Defense Minister Boonrawd Somtas said last week that his country’s military opted for the Ukrainian APCs, called BTR-3E1s, because they were the cheapest of the nine bidders. Ukraine has supplied such APCs to seven different countries in the past decade.

The APCs will be supplied through Ukrspetsexport, a state company specializing in the export and import of military products and services.

Mikhail Samus, an analyst at Kyiv-based arms and military consultancy Defense Express, said the BTR-3E1 design is essentially a totally new armored personnel carrier based on a Soviet design, the BTR-80. He noted that though the price for the vehicle was a crucial factor in winning the pitch, the capabilities of the modernized APCs offered by Ukraine was also a deciding factor in the tender.

“It is rather difficult to find a similar machine produced by any other countries,” he said.

The new armored personnel carrier will be made completely out of components manufactured in Ukraine. Earlier versions used parts from the US and European countries, including engines, transmissions and tires. About 20 Ukrainian factories will take part in the production of the 96 BTR-3E1s to be sold to Thailand’s military. The final assembly will be carried out at the Kharkiv-based Malyshev Tank Factory, reputed to have churned out more tanks than any other factory in the world in Soviet days.

Samus said the contract “is very important” for Ukraine, as it will help generate badly needed revenue for all involved factories and, in turn, help fuel the development of new technologies.

Plans envision that Ukraine’s military would order yet another modified APC called the BTR-4 in coming years, Samus added.

Ukraine, which inherited a vast military industrial complex from the Soviet Union, has raised $650-700 million annually from arms export contracts in recent years. The country’s main clients have included former Soviet Union republics, Southeast Asia, the Middle East and African countries.

For comparison, the US leads the ranks of the largest arms exporting countries, selling about $20 billion in arms annually. The UK, France and Russia are not far behind, according to Samus.

Samus estimated that it would take about two years for Ukraine to produce the 96s APCs earmarked for Thailand.

The largest earlier contract Ukraine landed since independence, involving the sale of 300 T-80UD tanks to Pakistan, was fulfilled in 1996-1999.

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This is interesting as i know Myanmar's army, the Tatmadaw has these vehicles.

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What kind of gun does that model have?

I have sat in the turret of a BTR-70, and I liked the way it worked. However, that was a 14.5mm, this looks much different.
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What kind of gun does that model have?
Shturm combat module. 30mm gun, coaxial AG-17, coaxial PK, two ATGM launch rails.
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But will the Thai vehicles come with that turret? At least that's just a promotional photo, not necessarily the version that Thailand will receive.
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Thailand is ordering 8 different versions, including unarmed medical variants.

At least the APC/IFV variant will apparently carry the Shturm turret.
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Thailand is ordering 8 different versions, including unarmed medical variants.

At least the APC/IFV variant will apparently carry the Shturm turret.
What type of AT missiles.
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What type of AT missiles.
I belive they are the chinese HJ-9s they have a range of 5,000 meters and can penaterate through 1,200mm of armor they are also capable of both day and night firing.
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I guess more that the AT missiles are AT-5 Konkurs missiles which are also build in Ukraine....
here are some infos about the the BTR-3U
http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/b...hp?menu=m1.php
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I guess more that the AT missiles are AT-5 Konkurs missiles which are also build in Ukraine....
here are some infos about the the BTR-3U
http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/b...hp?menu=m1.php
Good information - thank you.
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I belive they are the chinese HJ-9s they have a range of 5,000 meters and can penaterate through 1,200mm of armor they are also capable of both day and night firing.
have you heard of any information that China has given these to Ukraine, also a penetration figure of 1,200mm of armor seems to be quite alot
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also a penetration figure of 1,200mm of armor seems to be quite alot

Yeah, no kidding!

THat is a LOT of firepower, especialy for a wheeled vehicle. I wonder how the old BTR chassis shakes around when that 30mm is fired to one side or the other.

A gunner with nimble fingers could make good use of all those weapon systems, but I would urge the Thai to send some men over to the Ukraine to start training NOW. It is easy to punch the wrong button in combat situations.
Firing a grenade at a tank is a good way to get laughed at... right before you get killed.
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The vehicle has some pretty good stats, if only they could of fixed the infantry access/exit point, still a major flaw in the BTR series.
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