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U.S. Join another countries Army?

This is a discussion on U.S. Join another countries Army? within the Army & Security Forces forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by W1ngz I'm a U.S. citizen. I'm wanting to know if there's any hope for me in joining ...


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Old December 23rd, 2010   #31
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I'm a U.S. citizen. I'm wanting to know if there's any hope for me in joining any sort of military. I've tried all branches in the U.S. and have been turned down due to juvenile charges. I'm a soldier at heart and that's all I've ever wanted. If anyone knows anything some help would be cool. Thanks. P.S. I'm not some sort of traitor or anything, I'm a fighter and will gladly give my life for a cause. The U.S. just won't take me.

First post, will probably decide if it's my last.
Here in New Zealand you can join with convictions including upto and including assault with a weapon. I am a current serving member of the defense force with 2 convictions to my name. For me to join I had to remain conviction and trouble free 12 months from my last charge, I did this and now have been serving for 5 years.
A friend who I joined with had a history of assault and alcohol related charges from his younger days, he was accepted also. Provided you not some sort of nut job they are happy to let you in (provided you pass all the physc and aptitude tests and have shown that you are on the straight and narrow since your last conviction).
The only problem would be getting over to NZ and applying for residency. In the NZDF you can join without residency just so long as you have already put in your application when you sign up.
For further info I would recommended visiting NZ Army - Welcome and going through the site and sending a couple emails to their contacts listed.
Only draw back being if your a soldier at heart and want to be in the thick of it, NZ army isn't the best option unless you punch your way through and make it into 1 NZSAS.
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Remember his charges. I mean not even the army would take him. I know the 70ths where you could walk with a needle in your arm into a recruitment office and still apply are over, but they tend to take what they can get.

So a PMC might be a problem, despite what the media tells us they arent ruthless mercenaries who dont care for ones background, their just business firms, and as such a criminal history is going to be a problem.
We do not "take what we can get". ~75% of Americans between the ages of 17-24 are ineligible to serve in any branch of the US Armed Forces due to criminal history, medical history, insufficient education and/or an inability to pass the entrance exam (ASVAB). Of those otherwise eligible - only 1 in 4 score high enough on the ASVAB to enlist in the US Army or US Navy or USMC. The Air Force and Coast Guard have even higher test standards.

Taken as a whole, it is easier to get in to a college or university in the US than it is to join the military.

The days of the military as a "last chance" career are long over. As one of the most (if not THE most - though I admit I'm biased) professional and technologically advanced armed forces in history, the US military can no longer afford to settle for lower quality applicants. And we don't.

Unfortunately, high standards applied across such a large organization occasionally means that applicants with checkered pasts (particularly those with juvenile records) who have matured, and would make good soldier,sailors, airmen or marines, get denied enlistment. Big organizations are not good at making exceptions, even when warranted.

As far as private military corporations - they are in large part on decline from their heyday of the early OEF & OIF years, so the opportunities are becoming more limited. In addition, they are typically looking for people with extensive military backgrounds, often looking specifically for people with backgrounds in special operations.

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Hi there all. New here and would like some help please regarding my boyfriend. I am a us and australian citizen. I live in the us. He has a few misdemeanors and a felony. If we marry can he join the military in my homeland Australia? Thank you.
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