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Special Escort Group - under attack.

This is a discussion on Special Escort Group - under attack. within the Army & Security Forces forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by Quiller Well yes of course. But my question was specifically addressed to the author. What is the ...


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Old November 25th, 2012   #31
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Well yes of course. But my question was specifically addressed to the author. What is the ultimate goal of HIS particular story. Starting his tale with a heart-thumping active-shooting helicopter-downing nuclear-weapon snatch operation is all well and good... but his novel needs scope and purpose. What nuke to steal and whose to steal might well be goverened in his narrative by its ultimate use. I mean... rogue INTEL cells from any nation have to have a logical purpose to be believable. Planning a novel of this sort around "some sort of false flag op" isn't especially riveting. That op needs to have its own command presence to drive the story.

The big question still remains though. Why would a rogue CIA cell want to obtain a nuke via a running gun battle using heavy weapons and MANPADS to down security helicopters? Really? In England? That isn't particularly believable either. Stealing one from a third world Nuke member makes more sense. But I guess that's not quite as dramatic.
I'd suggested as much earlier in the thread. Running this op on mainland UK has "death warrant" written all over it.

CIA makes no sense at all as they could probably buy a working nuclear weapon on the open market (there are about 70 nuclear devices designed for tactical use, so called, "suitcase nukes" un-accounted for in the former USSR alone for instance)

Given that, I was trying to provide a helpful suggestion for the OP.
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OK, you have an 11 vehicle convoy, but only 14 men? Or are those 14 men only the protective detail, and there are an additional 11 drivers, plus relief drivers and a couple of officers, say an additional 24 men? How are those personnel equipped?

How many snipers do you plan to have to take out all 11 vehicles? If you don’t get them all the survivors will either hit you in the flank and rear, or block your escape routes.

Since the vehicles are armored are they equipped with firing ports? If so, the defenders will probably fight from inside if they lack body armor, or at least the vehicle crews will, and being under cover will be much harder to aim at.

You are going to issue medium machine guns in the place of SMG’s? Why not just go with old style battle rifles like the FN FAL or HK G3 using the same round? But don’t be too surprised if the armor can stop AP in that caliber.

Definitely a BFO spanner, and more than a few bolts. You will also need a crane with a capacity over 2 tons in order to lift it. But it is basically a safe, and can be cracked the same way. But be careful to damage the warheads.

As for hijacking the THDCs, if you shoot the driver while it is moving where do you think the vehicle is going to come to a stop? Probably stuck in a road side ditch, maybe with a busted axel (Break out the BFO spanners and the crane).

Going to trick/force them to stop before you shoot? The lead vehicle will be a minimum of 1/2 mile (1 km) or more (depending on speed and terrain) ahead of the convoy, and will signal the convoy to stop and deploy in a defensive lager if the road is blocked, road side accident begging for help, unexpected construction going on, etc. The target is now much tougher, and probably out of position.

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I would suggest you will need to add AT rockets and a couple of .50 cal machine guns and crews to your order of battle, as well as more infantry. There are just too many vehicles, you need more men. You also need to add specialists, like the safe cracker and probably and EOD man.
why not have the lead truck stoped for some reason then when the main convoy stops have the ambush half a mile back and cut them off from support shoot down the hellicopter with the stinger then you have 5 min before air support shows up but if it's in a wooded area you will have problems moving the nukes thats saying you can get past the gaurds but thats the best i can come up with but i'm only in high school
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