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Pinzgauer withdrawn by British

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Old July 12th, 2009   #1
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Pinzgauer withdrawn by British

Not suprised to read this article on the Pinzgauer vector being withdrawn by the British because it offered no protection against IED and mines with 5 soldiers killed.

New Zealand spent up on these vehicles and when i saw it my first thought was it is a death trap but it has missed out on public attention because of the debate on the purchase of the LAVS.

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I thought the Pinzgauers were purchased to replace the 25 year old Landrovers as a light operational vehicle.

w w w.army.mil.nz/our-army/equipment/lov/default.htm

They were not meant to be pitted against IEDs as a rule. Not all army vehicles need to be heavily armoured and as costly as those that are heavily armoured. The budget was NZ93m for 321 vehicles (60 armoured)= ave $290,000. Est at January 2005 rate = USD $203,000 per vehicle.

w w w.nzdf.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/public-docs/2006longtermdevelopmentplan.pdf (page 16 of the report)

To have purchased a broadly similar vehicle as the British would also have sounded like a good idea. The British must have put some thought into it even if they are now regretting their choice.

Of course, if I was travelling in mine and IED infested countries I'd say spend up large! Give me a tank (with air conditioning).
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I thought the Pinzgauers were purchased to replace the 25 year old Landrovers as a light operational vehicle.

w w w.army.mil.nz/our-army/equipment/lov/default.htm

They were not meant to be pitted against IEDs as a rule. Not all army vehicles need to be heavily armoured and as costly as those that are heavily armoured. The budget was NZ93m for 321 vehicles (60 armoured)= ave $290,000. Est at January 2005 rate = USD $203,000 per vehicle.

w w w.nzdf.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/public-docs/2006longtermdevelopmentplan.pdf (page 16 of the report)

To have purchased a broadly similar vehicle as the British would also have sounded like a good idea. The British must have put some thought into it even if they are now regretting their choice.

Of course, if I was travelling in mine and IED infested countries I'd say spend up large! Give me a tank (with air conditioning).
Your right it was brough to replace the Landrovers.

In a safe enviroment it will be fine but where there is any kind of threat they are going to be a death trap.

I remember one of the reasons they brought it was because it could carry twice as many people as a Humvee but if it can,t withstand any type of mine or IED attack all thats going to happen is you are going to have twice the number of people wasted.

They said the design is bad because the commander and driver are sitting over the wheels so they are going to cop a hugh amount of the blast.
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