New Zealand Army Organisation

[Rocco_NZ]

Of course, given the manning problems of most units at the moment, 2/1 isn't far away from being a Cadre at the moment either!

[Stuart Mackey]

Originally Posted by Rocco_NZ

You mean apart from the NZDF Annual Report, the NZD Briefing to the Incoming Government and the Ministry of Defence Briefing to the Incoming Government?

3/1 is maintaned as a cadre, but it does exist.

Are you sure? I downloaded those reports and unless the Adobe PDF search function has somehow failed the words 3/1 and Cadre do not exist in those documents. Nor do they exist when veiwed in the listed army force structure or other relevant part of those documents.
Could you post the relevant page number or copy paste the relevant text where it is mentioned?

[Rocco_NZ]

I'll see if I can locate the document again. In the mean time, have you tried the Parliamentary Written Question Database? There is some very interesting information in there that hasn't found its way in to mainstream circulation.

[Stuart Mackey]

Originally Posted by Rocco_NZ

I'll see if I can locate the document again.

Defence force and the MOD websites have the ones you mentioned.

In the mean time, have you tried the Parliamentary Written Question Database? There is some very interesting information in there that hasn't found its way in to mainstream circulation.

No, I havent. I confess I didnt know there was one. I shall eagerly look it up and see what half truths our public servants have been foisting on each other

[NZLAV]

How well trained are the New Zealand soliders? I have heard they are one of the best in the world?

Thanks in advance

[gf0012-aust]

Originally Posted by NZLAV

How well trained are the New Zealand soliders? I have heard they are one of the best in the world?

Thanks in advance

They're a very good outfit - and they've always had a very good and solid reputation as level 1 operators.

[Big-E]

They just need more of them.

[Mr Waka]

What exactly do you mean by the term 'level 1 operators'

[stryker NZ]

New Zealand soldiers have always been considered some of the best in the world all the way back to WW1 where we first made our mark. NZ also have one of the most admired armies in the world because of the effort our guys make to get to know the people of the areas they get deployed to (eg look at how the people of East Timor have welcomed the soldiers from the NZ army). What lets us down is our lack of equipment and numbers.

[Markus40]

Yes our soldiers are very good, however we are in danger of letting the Doctrine of Peacekeeping prevail over our war fighting ability. If we keep training them to the level they are today and have them function on the same level as the Australians then they are very good.

Its a pity we cant get our LAV into action and deployed to ET to work it through its paces.

Originally Posted by stryker NZ

New Zealand soldiers have always been considered some of the best in the world all the way back to WW1 where we first made our mark. NZ also have one of the most admired armies in the world because of the effort our guys make to get to know the people of the areas they get deployed to (eg look at how the people of East Timor have welcomed the soldiers from the NZ army). What lets us down is our lack of equipment and numbers.

[Markus40]

Yes more retainability is needed. There are too many soldiers and personell running off to higher paid jobs overseas with better opportunities. This was brought around by low moral due the Army being left without proper equipment in the past and the Army thinking they were into peacekeeping duties which seems to be the direction of this party. I hope due to changes in the military that this will change from here on.

Originally Posted by Big-E

They just need more of them.

[old faithful]

having worked closly with2/1 RNZIR , i can say they are the equal with any other infantry that i have worked with, and much better than most. (also very good beer drinkers!). Their bush skills and ability to adapt to conditions that are much different to what they are used to was impressive.

[Whiskyjack]

The Govt is currently engaged in a 10 year exercise to rebuild the strength of the NZDF. With a target of 2000 extra personnel, 1500 for the army. It is to cost an extra NZ$4.2b and increase the pay and conditions of personnel. Kicked off this year so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

[Mr Waka]

Could someone please answer my question. I had go at searching about the web and did not seem to find anything that helped me out.

[Rocco_NZ]

Originally Posted by Mr Waka

Could someone please answer my question. I had go at searching about the web and did not seem to find anything that helped me out.

In this context section, platoon and company level. The basic stuff. Not surprising really - battalion sized exercises a rare. While we maintain a brigade framework in theory, in reality it is hardly ever tested and we lack many of the assets you would expect to find at brigade level.