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This is a discussion on New Zealand Army Organisation within the Army & Security Forces forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by Lucasnz As a guide each battalion will have 812 people, including an ISTAR Coy, Logistics Co, 3 ...


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Old February 26th, 2006   #16
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As a guide each battalion will have 812 people, including an ISTAR Coy, Logistics Co, 3 Infantry Companies, 1 Combat Support Companies. The structure seems at odds with whats going on overseas (Commando's, Stryker Brigade).
Hi Lucasnz, can you provide any more info on the organisation? I note you have 812, where did you get the figure from? Appreciater any help.

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Old February 27th, 2006   #17
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Stuart, as a reference to 3/1 refer to the Armed Forces of New Zealand by James Rolfe: Chap 6.p.121 & p.124. Both are referenced to NZDF Annual Report 1996 and NZ Army CGS Directive 10/97.

I know its getting dated as reference and I'll be more than happy to have my thinking updated, if any one has a more recent reference.
I am going from exisitng, public, defence force documents availible on the website. They do not mention any unit designated 3/1 RNZIR.
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Whisky Jack, Having trouble contacting you via the contact details. Could you send an email to me using the details in public profile.

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Whisky Jack, Having trouble contacting you via the contact details. Could you send an email to me using the details in public profile.

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Hi Lucasnz,

you may need to alter your profile to allow mail from other members.

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I am going from exisitng, public, defence force documents availible on the website. They do not mention any unit designated 3/1 RNZIR.
Hi Stuart, trying to rack my brains here where I saw this reference. It was in reference to the rotations to East Timor.
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Hi Whisky Jack

Have a go now, with the e-mail. Heres hoping.
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Hi Whisky Jack

Have a go now, with the e-mail. Heres hoping.
No luck yet, may take a while to take effect, or may have to wait until you make 50 posts? I will try later on.
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No luck yet, may take a while to take effect, or may have to wait until you make 50 posts? I will try later on.
I have sent you an e-mail Lucasnz
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Hi Stuart, trying to rack my brains here where I saw this reference. It was in reference to the rotations to East Timor.
I seem to recall seeing it myself, so your not the only one. I have a book here at home somwhere which might reference it, I try and find it.
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I seem to recall seeing it myself, so your not the only one. I have a book here at home somwhere which might reference it, I try and find it.
As I recall it was in a diagramme of the NZ Army structure with a note attached.
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As I recall it was in a diagramme of the NZ Army structure with a note attached.
Book I have makes no mention of any 3/1 RNZIR, cetainly not at the time of Timor. I have no doubt that there may have been a 3/1, but it was off the lists by 2000 and it does not appear now. Probably dropped at the time of the Territorial reorganisation.
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Book I have makes no mention of any 3/1 RNZIR, cetainly not at the time of Timor. I have no doubt that there may have been a 3/1, but it was off the lists by 2000 and it does not appear now. Probably dropped at the time of the Territorial reorganisation.
Found the reference on the wikpedia article on the New Zealand Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Army

Not the most reliable source!
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Found the reference on the wikpedia article on the New Zealand Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Army

Not the most reliable source!
Indeed it is not, esp when official sources make no mention of a 3/1 battalion. It is for this reason that anything from wiki should be taken witha large bucket of salt.
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Indeed it is not, esp when official sources make no mention of a 3/1 battalion. It is for this reason that anything from wiki should be taken witha large bucket of salt.
You mean apart from the NZDF Annual Report, the NZD Briefing to the Incoming Government and the Ministry of Defence Briefing to the Incoming Government?

3/1 is maintaned as a cadre, but it does exist.
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You mean apart from the NZDF Annual Report, the NZD Briefing to the Incoming Government and the Ministry of Defence Briefing to the Incoming Government?

3/1 is maintaned as a cadre, but it does exist.

Thats where I think I saw it the briefing to the incoming Govt. I knew it was something more official! Thanks for that!
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