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Old April 4th, 2017   #1
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one of those techs that crosses the services, but initial emphasis is fire support
Funded by ONR - so one would assume that the potential links are into NIFC-CA and broader army aviation as well as CAS, CAP, C4ISR/AEW support

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It relates to the land warfare thread.

These days in peer or near peer engagements everything standing still for to long is in extreme danger of getting lots of steel rain on it's head.

The mix of modern artillery systems which don't need fire positions and are fast to calculate a firing solution, modern artillery/battlefield management systems which connect these artillery systems to a plethora of recce assets and modern long ranged and/or precision guided munitions is extremely lethal.

And due to shoot and scoot capabilities they are extremely difficult to suppress, let alone destroy.
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It relates to the land warfare thread.

These days in peer or near peer engagements everything standing still for to long is in extreme danger of getting lots of steel rain on it's head.

The mix of modern artillery systems which don't need fire positions and are fast to calculate a firing solution, modern artillery/battlefield management systems which connect these artillery systems to a plethora of recce assets and modern long ranged and/or precision guided munitions is extremely lethal.

And due to shoot and scoot capabilities they are extremely difficult to suppress, let alone destroy.
Heck. With PGMs, I wouldn't be surprised if fire support platforms developed the capability to fire on the move. Shoot while scoot. Imagine a battery of Paladins or something of the sort cruising along behind a Desert Storm-esque offensive, lobbing up artillery rounds on call, without even stopping, in the general direction needed, with most of the precise targeting done by the PGM itself. The fire support meanwhile keeps pace with the offensive while being difficult to effectively counter and/or suppress. I don't know how things like recoil management on a moving SPG, cost of PGMs, and the ammo logistics would work, or even if such a capability is necessary/practical, but this does seem to be the direction where things are headed.
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I am sceptical about that as it would be immensly difficult to keep the gun alighned the right way (and thus costly). Tube launched PGMs are not as agile as other PGMs (like MLRS launched SDBs for example).

It should be much cheaper to just reduce the time the gun has to stand still. A PzH2000 needs less than two minutes from getting the fire command to leaving the fire position. In practicsl terms that equates to keeping up with an armored spearhead.

Especially with things like the left hook desert dash during Desert Storm being rather unprobably over these distances in other theaters like in Europe or Korea.
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