This is a discussion on Abrams tank drivers within the Army & Security Forces forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by sgtgunn
The best thing your drill sergeant can say to you on graduation day is "Who the ...
The best thing your drill sergeant can say to you on graduation day is "Who the hell are you?".
We used to have an expression for it - be a 'grey' man - just blend in. Basic training is not the place to start launching your career as the next Chief of the Defence Force. There will be plenty of time later in your career for that!
thanks guys, i have been to kapooka (basic training) before back when i was in the army reserve. back then it was the same training as the full timers, but i think they have changed it now. not the nicest place i've ever been too but i have a pretty good understanding of what to expect. i have been out for too long so they are sending me back there again unfortunately. hopefully ill get up-squaded so i dont have to stay there as long.
i heard something about a vest that gets issued to abrams crew to keep them cool? sgtgunn mentioned it, but i also heard it from another army guy in australia. can anyone elaborate on how it works? its gets really hot up in darwin so hopefully they work well!
thanks guys, i have been to kapooka (basic training) before back when i was in the army reserve. back then it was the same training as the full timers, but i think they have changed it now. not the nicest place i've ever been too but i have a pretty good understanding of what to expect. i have been out for too long so they are sending me back there again unfortunately. hopefully ill get up-squaded so i dont have to stay there as long.
i heard something about a vest that gets issued to abrams crew to keep them cool? sgtgunn mentioned it, but i also heard it from another army guy in australia. can anyone elaborate on how it works? its gets really hot up in darwin so hopefully they work well!
Yes, there is a cooling vest that you can plug into the gas particulate unit, you will really need this if Australia has issued the U.S spalling vests as standard issue to its crewmembers.
Should of been a little more specific inregards to the gas particulate unit, this is part of the NBC main system, each crew member has two hook up points, one for the vest and one for your NBC mask.
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Last edited by eckherl; July 8th, 2009 at 08:22 PM.
Yes, there is a cooling vest that you can plug into the gas particulate unit, you will really need this if Australia has issued the U.S spalling vests as standard issue to its crewmembers.
Should of been a little more specific inregards to the gas particulate unit, this is part of the NBC main system, each crew member has two hook up points, one for the vest and one for your NBC mask.
so the vest works by pumping cold air through it? what sort of temperature drop can be achieved? if its really hot outside, im talking in the range of 35-40 degress celcius (not sure what this is in farenheit) would this vest keep you comfortable inside? have you ever been uncomfortably hot whilst inside the abrams?
so the vest works by pumping cold air through it? what sort of temperature drop can be achieved? if its really hot outside, im talking in the range of 35-40 degress celcius (not sure what this is in farenheit) would this vest keep you comfortable inside? have you ever been uncomfortably hot whilst inside the abrams?
Pumping cool air is more like it, vest should at least drop the temperature to a tolerable level to perform you crew duties. And yes I have been uncomfortable inside a M1 series, especially after firing a whole combat load or going thru Mop 4 drills. People do not understand the amount of heat that gets generated inside of a tank turret during firing engagements, especially when you are firing alot of rounds, a combustable tank round burns at a average temperature of 3600 degrees plus throw in the factor of your FCS and turret power. Anyone would be happy to have a cooling vest and a over pressure system.
If you keep yourself in good physical shape and force your self and your team mates to drink plenty of water you will be just fine, there are other things that will be on your mind while you are in a hostile environment.
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1. ok here is what i would like to know...how exactly do you drve the abrams, it seems pretty straight forward put it in gear, twist throttle to go, turn left/right.....but where are the brakes!!!???
1. ok here is what i would like to know...how exactly do you drve the abrams, it seems pretty straight forward put it in gear, twist throttle to go, turn left/right.....but where are the brakes!!!???
On the floor, and they can be most sensitive.
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Cooling vests seems like cool idea! In T-90s here they chose to install ACs instead definetly less energy efficient. Although I believe it also had something to do with the electronics and TI frying up in the heat of desert.
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Cooling vests are a poor mans AC and defenitely are less efficient at keeping the temperature at a sustainable level and, as you said, do nothing to protect the electronics.
Cooling vests are a poor mans AC and defenitely are less efficient at keeping the temperature at a sustainable level and, as you said, do nothing to protect the electronics.
Hey, at least they helped so that we did not paaas out. They did the same very bloody thing to the initial designed Stryker MGS knowing(they were told) there may be turret cooling issues in hot environments.
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Hey guys I'm a newbe to this forum but not to the MIA2 Abrams. Back in the early nineteen nineties I worked at General Dynamics in Sterling Heights MI. While there I designed some radio interface boards that allowed the British radios to communicate with the Abrams vetroninics. This gave that version of the tank a vehicle to vehicle digital communications link providing an IVIS like capability. Fun jobs to do but the GD management style and system design methods left a lot to be desired.
But I find that this forum seem to be quite unfriendly. I posted a message on a stealth forum and got an answer form some guy asking for confrmation of who I was but then the silly guy locked the thread so I could not even answer him. even more interesting was that now with the thread locked I can see a whole slew of other post that were not there last night. what gives???
Cooling vests are a poor mans AC and defenitely are less efficient at keeping the temperature at a sustainable level and, as you said, do nothing to protect the electronics.
you are probably right! but when I mentioned efficiency, I meant energy efficiency(Energy used) in cooling rather amount of cooling.
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Hey guys I'm a newbe to this forum but not to the MIA2 Abrams. Back in the early nineteen nineties I worked at General Dynamics in Sterling Heights MI. While there I designed some radio interface boards that allowed the British radios to communicate with the Abrams vetroninics. This gave that version of the tank a vehicle to vehicle digital communications link providing an IVIS like capability. Fun jobs to do but the GD management style and system design methods left a lot to be desired.
But I find that this forum seem to be quite unfriendly. I posted a message on a stealth forum and got an answer form some guy asking for confrmation of who I was but then the silly guy locked the thread so I could not even answer him. even more interesting was that now with the thread locked I can see a whole slew of other post that were not there last night. what gives???
I do not think that he was being unfriendly, just wants you to verify who you are. This more than likely can be resolved by sending him a PM to discuss the issue. Also you have to be careful what you decide to discuss on this forum and others like it, but if you have worked in the fields that you have stated then you already know this with your past and possibly present security clearances.
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you are probably right! but when I mentioned efficiency, I meant energy efficiency(Energy used) in cooling rather amount of cooling.
I know that they also tried using IDF designed cooling blankets/pads also for the Indian T-90S, I guess these never worked out and with the amount of turret space volume I can see why.
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They did the same very bloody thing to the initial designed Stryker MGS knowing(they were told) there may be turret cooling issues in hot environments. 
